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Boruc T-Shirt - Should he or Shouldn't he

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Daver, Aug 14, 2008.

Discuss Boruc T-Shirt - Should he or Shouldn't he in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Daver

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    Have been involved in a bit of banter on another thread, and this ended up being discussed (as well as "Riordan - * or not").

    Am wanting to take a poll on Boruc's now infamous t-shirt - the question:

    Should he or Shouldn't he have done it.
     
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  2. Ryan47

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    Shouldn't.

    there was nothing wrong with it, but we're trying to get rid of that kind of stuff, and he brings it up in an old firm match.
     
  3. ali_cfc

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    yes he should have there is nothing against expressing your feelings for your religion
     
  4. stephenxiii

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    why shouldnt he have done it, it wasnt that when rangers paraded around with the queen on there t-shirts
     
  5. Ryan47

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    but the thing is, we shouldn't have a problem with the queen.
     
  6. Ryan47

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    no matter what though, your going to get arseholes who are gonna say he had every right, and YES HE DID!

    but it was in the totally wrong place to do so, an old firm match ffs, come on lads.
     
  7. Bhoys Dont Cry

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    i didnt have a problem with it.
     
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    Didnt bother mee but he shouldnt have
     
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    The same point of view, exactly!
     
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    I have no problem whatsoever with him wearing the tshirt, but i do think it was the wrong decision, could have stirred up all sorts of bother after the game!
     
  11. Ryan47

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    my thoughts exactly.
     
  12. FootyFanaticJ

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    I voted he shouldn't have done it, there is a time and place to put your beliefs on show, in a chapel perhaps.

    we shouldnt like the Queen at all, you dont have to like anyone.
     
  13. Overkill187 Batshitcrazy

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    but they should have a problem with the pope?


    do you think jewish people shouldn't wear their kippahs?
     
  14. Ryan47

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    i didn't say they should have did i ?

    i didn't think i would need to say anything about the pope, everyone should already know they shouldn't have a problem with the Pope, and we shouldn't have a problem with the queen.

    which basically proves boruc shouldn't have done it, it causes too much controversy and uproar.

    everyone knows he's a proud catholic, it was to wind up rangers fans, it could have caused a lot of trouble.
     
  15. Overkill187 Batshitcrazy

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    I didn't say you said it, I asked you a question.
    why shouldn't he be able to express his religion belief? it's religion, it's omnipresent and unlike football not a sport. it's an attitude and belief. anybody should be able to express his beliefs whenever that person wants.


    I don't have a problem with any religion or even the queen. expressing his faith is an human right and if somebody got a problem with that, it's their prob. that goes for the huns, if they got a problem with it, it's their problem. why renunciate the right to do something because some retards don't like you?

    would you tell some black people living in a * area to not go outside, because they could offend some nazis, it causes too much controversy and uproar?
     
  16. Daver

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    Freedom of speech today is understood as a multi-faceted right that includes not only the right to express, or disseminate, information and ideas, but three further distinct aspects:
    • The right to seek information and ideas;
    • the right to receive information and ideas;
    • the right to impart information and ideas.
    International, regional and national standards also recognise that freedom of speech, as the freedom of expression, includes any medium, be it orally, in written, in print, through the Internet or through art forms. This means that the protection of freedom of speech as a right includes not only the content, but also the means of expression. This is particularly important for media or press, which plays a special role as the bearer of the general right to freedom of expression for all.

    Obviously not mine - stolen from Wiki. Makes some good / valid points though.
     
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  17. Ryan47

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    were you brought up in scotland ? or are you 100 percent Swiss ?

    if you are not from scotland, you won't understand :50:

    the sectarian issues here are a disgrace, him doing that in that manner was not right, him doing it, WAS RIGHT.

    in the manner though, it made it wrong.

    and a black person going outside in a * area is totally different, he cannot help how he looks.

    boruc can help putting a t-shirt he knows is going to cause in trouble in those surroundings.

    you know aswell as i do, if rangers had won that day, and barry ferguson revealed a shirt saying, * BLESS THE QUEEN AND KING BILLY 1690.

    you know aswell as me that the guys on here, yourself included would be foaming at the mouths saying he should be punished and calling him a wee orange *.
     
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  18. mc'celts'fitz

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    i voted he should have...i can see the point of view of those who think he shouldnt have done it at that time but if you look at the bigger picture there was a reason behind him doing that and it stems back to him blessing himself and the huns going nuts over it....we made up the holy goalie song and we sing it whenever possible especially at the huns so were just as bad as boruc in that case! he wore that t-shirt coz he thought us celtic supporters would love to see it..it shows he wants to make a connection with the fans....at the end of the day it was the huns who made a fuss of him blessing himself so they have no one to blame but themselves for him wearing it
     
  19. Ryan47

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    my point is, if i went into a jewish town, with a t-shirt praising nazis.

    would i be wrong to do so ? according to most of you's i wouldn't be wrong.

    of course the circumstances change when its a celtic player involved eh :50:
     
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    i dont thing he should have done it,he has got to thing about after the game when some poor kid gets a kicking from the knuckle-dragers because of his actions. but that said they were sick.