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Leigh Griffiths

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by Vertie Auld, Jan 31, 2014.

Discuss Leigh Griffiths in the Ex Players area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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    https://www.independent.ie/sport/so...riffiths-he-needs-to-get-fitter-30601558.html

    "He really wants to succeed at Celtic. He's at a very big club, and this is his chance," said Deila. "Wanting is one thing, but knowledge is another.


    "Playing matches is important, but being a 24-hour athlete is important as well. What you do in matches is important, but you have also to be very aware of what you do every day in training and off the pitch. There have been no problems with Leigh off the pitch, but he needs to get fitter."

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45917683

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38800786

    "What I've said to him is about making sure the talent is a working talent," said the Celtic manager.

    "Because talent's not good enough on its own.

    "You have to work at it - and it's a cycle. It's one where, when he's playing and fit, Leigh's very good but can still work harder in training.

    "The problem is if you're not getting the games and then if you're not quite on it in training then you're losing fitness.

    "But then the moment you're asked to come in and get up to speed in a real high-tempo, intense game, the moments that are there for you to risk injury are far greater."

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    Three separate managers publicly criticising his lack of fitness (including Lennon this season), a pattern that gives us enough evidence to conclude that Griffiths is mostly responsible for his fitness issues due to his lack of professionalism and low standards.


    Pish. Please don't condescend by assuming I think everyone is the same, I don't. Staying fit is the bare minimum expected of a professional footballer. Griffiths has mismanaged himself for years, even taking into consideration his other struggles. He was given plenty of support within the club, but he's still managed to let the club and the fans down. Three different managers over the space of seven seasons dealing with the same issue, is a ridiculous amount of time to be continually making excuses for someone who has shown poor self discipline.
     
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  2. Liam Scales

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    Except that wasn’t the reason why, it’s because he asked him if he wanted to come off or was fine to continue, he said he was fine. He wasn’t and injured himself further
     
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    It still dosen't justify the way Lenny spoke to him, for me it said more about the manager than it did the player.

    If that's the way he acts in public you could only imagine what it was like behind the scenes, we had a guy managing us who couldn't even manage himself.
     
  4. Liam Scales

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    I’m fine with a manager saying * off and getting a player telt when it’s needed, I think there’s very few managers who wouldn’t tbh.
     
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    Surely that’s the manager and the physio to decide not the players? It’s just generation Lennon shirking every bit of responsibility due to his own lack of decision making and man management.
     
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    Your either ignorant or have no idea about mental health. I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt and say it’s the later.
     
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    Aye but 99.9% are professional enough to do that in the changing room not in front of the cameras on a packed Europe night, that’s just * as *.
     
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    Players have some personal responsibility when it comes to there bodies and own fitness, blaming everything on a manager is bullshit. There’s only so much a physio can tell on the pitch, they aren’t going to be waiting about for scans and testing to confirm if they can stay on.

    You need to rely on your guys knowing themselves and knowing their fitness. It works hand in hand with being a footballer. This one was the case of a young boy coming back from injury desperately trying to pretend he wasn’t injured because he didn’t want to be.

    Lying about it helps nobody, and wee Mikey paid the price for it because he was out than far longer than he should have been because of it.
     
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    Absolute bullshit, seen a lot worse from a lot better managers.
     
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    Aye naw bor man …………. NL the complete professional.

    Two players, two different situations yet funnily enough a managers lack of skill to man manage is never in doubt. Wonder why the clubs * when you have logic like that.
     
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    I think if given the chance Griffith could be a great player for Ange. It all depends if they can agree a deal at the end of the day.

    I do think for a lot of people it's easy to target Griffith when things don't go to plan but he's scored a lot of important goals for us.
     
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  12. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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    Lol, it's neither. I don't need your validation when the evidence to back up my point is in front of your face.
     
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    Ive trained loads of kids and players over the years, some need motivation doing everything, some are self motivated, some just not interested in the slightest. It’s about how you approach and encourage them. That’s the same in every aspect in life.

    With Ange I feel we are getting a much better man manager, much like BR who was able to get the most out of players and getting their self belief up.
     
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    Do you have a full psych report on every player in the Celtic squad like? * me it’s Doctor Phil!
     
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    The only way I feel he should be given a new deal is if its on significantly reduced money, I don't doubt the talent he has but every manager that's been here in his time has questioned his professionalism and that's not a coincidence
     
  16. Cena Never Give Up Gold Member

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    * me things are bad if we're bringing lee naylor back
     
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    * me is it just me or has there been a big uptick in utter brown being posted on here in the past few days.
     
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    Utter nonsense. The whole point in having medical staff is that they're able to tell players when they're ready to play or not.

    Managers have to use the staff at their disposal to make an informed decision on their players. Obviously a young player is going to want to play on, the wee guy is desperate to play every game for Celtic.

    The fact is that Lennon and his staff got Mikey injured due to their own ineptitude. Lennon then had the cheek to add a literal insult to his injury by shouting at him while he was being carried off. It was disgraceful behaviour on his part.
     
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  19. James Gold Member Gold Member

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    Aye it's not what Lennon said that I find unprofessional it's the circumstances in which it arose it shouldn't have been Johnston's choice to play on or not
     
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    As fans We are now joining the world of not being able to deal with any criticism leveled at you, soft as * and your a dinosaur if you have passion commitment and motivation to push and get the best out players who are now in total control and stop playing for you if the dont agree with you .
    I will not stand by and not show support for wot I believe, Lennon for all thats been leveled at him from supporters (fans) with probably a decent amount of undercover huns , was a massive supporter of the club , a great captain , a born winner and leader and got us our 2 best results in Europe that I have witnessed, there wer mistakes last year but I would argue the case that he wasn't given the tools HE required to do the job , yeh he took the job , he loves the club , and wanted to be here , many will say for the money , but he is wealthy anyway , our fans are following the trend of washing all the passion from the sport , calling him a bully cauz he swore at a player for being an idiot and making sure we had to play with 10 instead of 11 , I like m j , but fgs its a man's game , "in general terms " before I offend anyone, he was no dinosaur he also had to deal with a media campaign to portray him in a certain way and helped to turn many fans against him , now he's being slated for being outspoken after leaving , we all deserve to defend ourselves and have our say , when many have formed opinions based on * stories , no one is perfect but we now have formed the opinion he is a drunk dinosaur with no tactics, sorry but thats just bs .
     
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