Blame the board? Blame Brendan!

Paid far more than we should have for a guy who doesn't improve us at all. Terrible signing really, another one I hope goes before the end of the window. Doubt him or Hendry will be gone though, which is an annoying thought.

 

That what I expected from the off, but he has brought in without selling or pay offs has added to an already bloated squad,

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I can see why he signed Hayes. A solid domestic signing on paper, who he had worked with before. If he though for a minute one of the youths were up to the challenge, he might not have signed him.

You can see reasoning behind most of his signings. We've just had terrible luck with injuries and Botata being an utter *.

 

I'd hardly say £1.2 million plus circa £8k a week for 3 years is inconsequential.

Also just because he was Aberdeen's best player in a season doesn't mean we should automatically be interested. Given we're an aspiring Champions League club we should've been setting the bar higher than a 30 year old Jonny Hayes.

That's nothing against him as a person, I'm sure he's brand new but we have far too many players contributing nothing to add another.

 

Spot on. He is a good manager and motivator but every man manager * up now and again, even Fergie and Mourinho

Boyata wants away and his agent is encouraging him (as his $$$ depends on big money moves by his clients ).

Rogic and Dembele have also probably been tapped up for a move, its all and only about the money and we ( like most EPL and SPL clubs) are just a shop-window for ambitious players.

 

How are they obvious BR targets? Hayes strikes me as a signing to purely weaken your closest rivals? I don't see what he brings at all that we couldn't get from Johnston or Christie or potentially Morgan?

 

We have at least 20-30k in dispensible wages just now, Dorus? Ralston? Miller? Scott Allan? Benyu? and the age-old argument of "If someone was looking we'd sell" is nonsense. If Adam Rooney can move for 4k a week to Salford we could easily trim our squad. We might not make a lot of money on transfers however it would free up a lot of wages.

 

Much more than that to be honest.

Throw in Christie, Benyu, Gamboa, Compper.

 

Not Christie and Benyu- they should be given a chance. But a lot of players could indeed be moved on.

 

BR is the same as all managers,sign someone and play them regardless of form.

 

I doubt that is the case, im sure when it comes to first team players the manager has plenty of input about who we sign.....but the club can also say....look we have the chance to take a young guy on loan for two years,he will be a squad player so we can see how it goes......like the lad from the london rangers......loaned....squad....*....returned.

 

Reading through this thread and I'm quite astonished at the criticism of BR. He's worked with top players before so it's highly unlikely that most of the flops he's signed would have been his first choice. I think he's been let down by the board badly.
Losing out on Mcginn was preventable and as of now we don't have any new players that were not here last year. Where the * has all the money went to?

 

Aye but he is * at signing defenders and he was found out at Liverpool.

Seems history is repeating itself.

 

brendan is at fault as much as the board, he has singed some utter numpties and sometimes his tactics can be a bit baffling in europe

 

They’re not good enough. If we want to improve then those two aren’t going to cut it.

Christie is an Aberdeen level player. Even then he was poor from January until May.

Benyu was loaned out to Oldham last season. He played 4 games. Most of the time he was there he never even made their match day squad.

 

If what you have said is right then we do indeed have a problem if the board can identify better players.
What I prefer and believe is this - Any player who is signed, while maybe not being BR first pick due to a variety of reason, will have been wanted by BR, whoever has identified them. My original post was more about continually reading how everything is the boards fault (Yes they share some of the blame) and some people even spend time dreaming up scenarios to 'show' how some players have been forced on the manager. This is simply insulting towards the Manager. Unless people think BR, in this case, is some kind of spineless yes man who will simply do as he is told. Is this how they imagine the meeting went when BR was appointed -

The board are all sitting round the table and BR is sitting at the top of the table ...

Board - So Mr Rodgers we want to offer you the job we will pay you £45k a week however we will decide on the players who we will sign and you will use them or not. This is our terms, Yes or No ?

BR - Well you have caught me off guard here with your openness and straightforwardness. I did think we would have various discussions regarding not only what I would be paid but also regarding targets for me and budgets for players purchases/wages etc. I like your directness though and while I am already worth * loads of cash and don't need to worry about ever working again, it is a generous offer... While I also, one day, probably want to return to the EPL as I feel I have unfinished business in that league, so I need to be taken seriously in the meantime and having players bought for me won't do my credibility a lot of good but you know what.. I'm yer man for 45k a week ... you got a pen ...

If anyone thinks the conversation was anything remotely like this they really do need to go for a lie down

Ps I actually don't think Hayes was a bad signing he has just been unlucky injury wise and Hendry has been unlucky as he has been placed straight into the team. When a longer period to settle in and adjust to the demands of playing at a higher level would have benefitted him more imo.

He wanted those players, look at the interviews from the time, so trying to deflect them onto being the boards poor signings is pointless now, imo mate. Unless you think the above, or similar, conversation has any possibility of having happened in which case I'm out.

 

Hayes has never been celtic class. We said this before rodgers went for him.the shirt is too much for him.HH

 

He was bought as cover ,and more for domesic than european ,consider the amount of games we played and price along with his assist and goals and you see why it happened ,has it worked ,no .

 

Going through the Celtic wicki page on signings, it's incomprehensible how much money has been wasted on duds over the years.
Pretty much every manager has made mistakes of some description, as happens at every other professional club, but recent years has been astonishing??

Its obvious the club have focused on the Billy bean money-ball template.

But surely any money from successes like VVD and Armstrong has been swallowed up paying for transfer and agent fees and wages for;
Deep breath!!
De Vries, Janko, Gamboa, Commper, Erik, Simunovic, Benyu, Allen, Christie, Kouasi, Hayes, Christie, Mackay-Stephen, Scepovic, Kazem-Richards, Calton Cole, Cifti to name just a few.
Add in fees probably paid for Blackett and Mousonda loans and it look even worse.
And this is giving the benefit of doubt that somehow Bain, Hendry and Morgan will all work out.

It's unlikely this transfer window can be salvaged now, but surely somebody in recruitment/board level needs to look at how poor an overall return has been harvested from these transfers over the past 5 years.

If I was on the board, overseeing this shambolic and wasteful recruitment would be my no 1 priority.
Not some chuffing disco lights!!

 

If this is gonna be made into a board v br issue when there is no real issue ,then people make mistakes ,its the nature of the game ,from our defending to our manager and board , we have to try to make less of them ,our board have a system (plan) that the manager agrees with or he would not have come , how rigid the plan is we dont know ,but like all plans they have to have some flexability or you hit a wall ,is this wots happening ,we are seeing the eddy signing and players sold to cover that cost ,but we are not seeing the wage increases for players resigned and loan players coming back onto the wage bill ,are we at our max budget for wages because our squad is bloated ,has this meant we could not offer boyata a deal that he would accept ,has it meant we cant bring in players until we sell to ballance the wage bill .
There seems no reason not to strengthen unless its upseting a rigid structure with no room for manoeuvre.