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Mikael Lustig

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by Officer Doofy, Mar 3, 2012.

Discuss Mikael Lustig in the Ex Players area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    There's plenty to blame.

    The main point is he's been trash in both of these legs and it's clear he needs replaced now, much as I've often defended him.
     
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  2. Peter T. Lawwell Esq Chairman of Celtic FC PLC Gold Member

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    There are no full backs who are able to stop every cross coming in. In our system the full backs main concern is the opposition player cutting inside them or dribbling past them.

    If the aim was to stop any crosses coming ib at all then we would need to play 10 men behind the ball and double up on players going down the flanks.
     
  3. Peter T. Lawwell Esq Chairman of Celtic FC PLC Gold Member

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    I think Lustig looks bad because he's trying to cover for the CBs during their brainfarts and ends up taking the blame for their errors.

    It happens to KT as well as we've conceded goals where he's tried to cover for an AWOL cb and ended up looking like he's lost his man.

    Our defensive issues are all due to the lack of a commanding presence in the centre imo.
     
  4. Seán Mac D Gold Member Gold Member

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    No, he looks bad because he's nowhere near the level he once was however much people continue to try to downplay it.

    He was at fault for all 3 of AEK's goals over the 2 legs.
     
  5. Peter T. Lawwell Esq Chairman of Celtic FC PLC Gold Member

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    You don't understand how full backs work or how quotes work.

    Who needs tactical analysis or reasoned debate though, when you can just call one of our players an "absolute *".

    Bet you're one these * that sits at games with your arms folded, tutting and shouting "* sake Brooney" every time we lose the ball. Then comes back up the road and goes, "atmosphere was * at the game the day".
     
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  6. Peter T. Lawwell Esq Chairman of Celtic FC PLC Gold Member

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    Be interested to hear your reasoning behind this? Unless its because you think that full backs should always stop every cross coming in.
     
  7. Seán Mac D Gold Member Gold Member

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    Goal at Celtic Park he looked like he was dragging a Double decker bus trying to catch their winger, despite that the wide man gets to the ball right on the byline but is stretching to cross the ball back, a full back should 100% be stopping that ball coming in.

    1st goal last night he does a half-hearted fall back on heels while flinging a leg out which gives the opponent half a yard to move on then get in a cross, beating his 2nd half-hearted flinging a leg out.

    2nd goal last night, he loses his man and doesn't get a touch on it to stop the ball.

    What attributes do you see in Lustig that makes you think he is a dependable RB for us?
     
  8. Peter T. Lawwell Esq Chairman of Celtic FC PLC Gold Member

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    i think he does a job. He's not perfect and he has occasional lapses in concentration but you can level that accusation at every one of our players.

    He also gets called slow a lot yet very rarely do you see opponents actually run past him. He is also supposed to stop every cross coming in, or if we concede a goal because a striker is unmarked in the box its his fault because he didnt stop the cross.

    He could maybe have done better for their 2nd last night but imo he never really stood a chance since Hendry gave the 1st man a free header and allowed him to put it on a plate for the scorer.

    I mainly just don't like how he's being made a scapegoat for Celick da types to shout at. He's being hounded out the club by * whos entire footballing knowledge comes from listening to super scoreboard.

    The blame for practically all of our defensive frailities lie at the feet of Jozo and Hendry imo. If you want to see what a truly bad RB looks like, I urge you to revisit one of the games where Hendry played there. You'll be crying out for a full back who can show an attacker down the line in no time.
     
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  9. StPauli1916 Gold Member Gold Member

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    100% :50:
     
  10. Seán Mac D Gold Member Gold Member

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    You can't be serious with that comment? Opponents regularly roast him. See Barrie McKay at Ibrox 31/12/16. Even the Linfield home game he was toiling quite a few times.

    Does a job? What job does he do?

    He doesn't have the legs to get up and support in attack. He's extremely uncomfortable with the ball at his feet, regularly flinging a foot at it when under pressure see mulitple occasions on the game v Rangers at home on 30/12/17.

    He is now regularly exposed in defence eg. Partick Thistle game last season scuffing the ball and then giving away a penalty by hauling down his man or his brain fart pass straight to Mackay-Steven at Pittodrie to then bring him down and get a red card.

    There's example after example of him not being good enough, if you choose to gloss over them and say anyone who thinks differently are "by * whos entire footballing knowledge comes from listening to super scoreboard" then you're absolutely deluded.

    Lustig is nowhere near the required standard. Simple as that.
     
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    I really think Lustig has been a good servant for us but he is past it and was past it last season.

    We should have brought in a right back this transfer window but Rodgers and the board haven’t.

    I’m not even gonna get started with the centre half position.
     
  12. celticfan01

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    maybe cause I'm sick of * like you who are defending a guy who puts in constant half arsed performances yet picking up a wage for it, but wait he put a policemens hat on and winds up the huns so that must mean he is a great player. The fact that you say he isn't slow just shows me that you hardly watch us. Sticking out a flimsy leg to stop a cross instead of going in hard for the ball was his mistake last week and 5 minutes in this week he does the same thing. You say you haven't seen a player run past him, literally 5 minutes in the guy gets past him and assists a goal for * sake:31:

    I'm not just blaming him for the first, Ntcham, Mcgregor and Tierney all standing about doing * all. Their 2nd goal could've been a foul on him but there are no camera angles that show a clear push, for an experienced player like himself, don't you think he should've fallen to the ground and made the most of it or do you want him just to throw his hands up in the air and hope the ref gives something? But costing us 3 goals in europe will no doubt get him a start this week in the cup because he is always rewarded no matter how * he plays.
     
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    I would have played him at CB with Jozo and Gamboa on right.
     
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    A classic example of looking to the same players over and over, many of them have no real competition for their place, so they become complacent.

    After winning back to back Trebles this was the ideal time to bring in fresh faces, but the very thing we all feared is playing out in front of our very eyes, lack of investment.
     
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    "He's been done for years now. At least all you * that were in denial last season will finally accept it"


    His flaws were evident some time ago - as I pointed out to
    one or more clowns on here .He also feigned injury which I
    don't have time for.
    He was always going to make fundamental errors -but not
    all bad news - he looks good in a police hat ???????
    Gamboa is not the answer - yet but deserves a run in the side !
     
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  16. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    Me too, but he’s a pish CB.. which sums it up..

    Gamboa and his pace was needed last night, Lustig was at the root of the goal at Celtic Park and the 1st last night..

    What I don’t understand is when BR came in he identifies RB as an area to strengthen, brings in Gamboa doesn’t play him and then compares Ralston to the next Danny McGrain..

    We need a RB, we better get one before the end of the window..
     
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    Amazing how good certain players become when they don’t play (Boyata, Gamboa, Erik)
    We’d have won the CL with them all in the team, guaranteed!

    Lustig at 7pm last night was the best man we had to play RB according to Rogers. Wether that’s down to poor recruitment, or blind loyalty no one on here can say.

    Was he lacking?
    At key moments over both legs, unquestionably yes. But to fully blame ML for the clubs elimination is really harsh. Others have highlighted he didn’t stop 2 crosses, but what about the other players who were equally culpable not communicating, tracking runners or ball watching.

    Is his time up?
    I guess his time with us is drawing to a end. But until Rogers is totally satisfied with a replacement, we need to support ML to do the best job he can while wearing our hoops. Domestically he usually copes well, so integrating new talent over the next few months will be key.

    I’m astounded ML has lasted out the past 2 seasons tbh, and feared the worse every time he’s gone down injured over that period.

    Just very surprised at the lack of serious recruitment/investment in our defence for the past 4/5 years. Last night wasn’t great, and infuriating due to it being avoidable.

    Recruitment, spending, (egotistical and unprofessional player and agent) need examining first imho before slaughtering someone trying their best
     
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    Gamboa hasn't been played because he * Rodgers(and Celtic- in Rodgers's eyes) over by playing in the gold cup with CR instead of playing qualifying rounds with Celtic(when he first signed). Whether that was the reason he didn't play last night I don't know but if it was then Rodgers has to forgive him or move him on.
     
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    Cant believe he's getting defended. Would absolutely start Gamboa over him. New RB needed badly but I'm not holding my breath.
     
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    surley gamboa must be wondering how hes not playng