Celtic Supporters Thread (contains GB chat)

great banners and love our songs though I noticed quit a few not joining in, their choice, as it's ours to sing our songs, nothing will happen from this from eufa

 

The Celtic support has and always will have a political element. It's part of the diverse makeup of our support. It's more than just a football club to most of us, it represents a people and a cause. The Green Brigade might not always get it right or be to everyone's taste, but they accurately reflect the support most if the time.

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It has absolutely nothing to do with policital correctness. If the GB fly a banner of a paramilitary they are doing so purely to get attention and generate a response. Some people will think it is cool. Some people will think its dumb. The only thing that is certain is that is risks getting the club in trouble and it will cause offence to some people.

And on Irish heritage, Ireland is very lucky in that is has a broad and influential history that stretches far beyond its border. It shouldnt be a heritage or culture defined by getting it up angry huns and scary guys in balaclavas. If the primary motivation of the GB is to promote Irish culture I would recommend some banners celebrating Joyce, Wilde, and Yeats. Maybe one of Enya? Those would be far more controversial than the tired old IRA stuff

 

Spot on. UEFA are political when it suits.

 

What's damm sad is there's only gonna be one winner in this whole thing.

 

I have absolutely no interest in Irish politics and very little interest in Irish history, but I saw nothing wrong with any of the banners last night.

I really don't give a * if anyone is offended by a spray painted image of someone with an Easter Rising beret, when local councils throughout these isles freely allow (and sponsor) orange walks every year.

I'm not trying to compare the banner with orange walks, before anyone attempts to make that tenuous link, I'm just stating that we shouldn't concern ourselves with how the tabloid media and hun supporting general public perceive our fanbase. * them.

 

Your views on politics are incredibly simple.

Everything about UEFA is political.

UEFA are totally morally corrupt.

It's not " a very good rule to have" as it is totally subjective and totally unenforceable as they are OK with some sorts of politics and not others.

Whether you realise it or not you have been and are expressing a political view every time you comment on this and by supporting UEFA's stance or suggesting others should that is a political statement. I am not sure what religion has to do with anything so I have no idea why you mention that.

 

The ra ?

 

Who would hold this veto, Peter Lawwell? A fan vote before the game? Brendan? Worse still, Police Scotland?

Giving a veto to anyone connected to Celtic PLC is a gag order by another name, we'd end up with Jungle Bhoys 2.0 which is exactly why the GB was started in the first place. They'd leave before that happened.

 

Ohhhh noooo......not another banner!!!!

Utter nonsense the amount of furore a cupla banners are getting here.

There is nothing "terroristy" about it. There is no depiction of any guns of any sort, nor nothing threatening any civvies.

 

They stand up and back the fans, tell them that flying the flag a of a nation is not offensive, that singing songs about Ireland is not illegal or sectarian, refusing to pay the fines is closing the stable door after the horse has bolted, they should be putting up a robust defence in the initial hearings when the charges come in

 

You still didn't answer whether or not I have your permission to consider myself a Celtic fan. I eagerly await your confirmation.

With regards to the veto, I am advocating the club appointing an official to look at the banners intended to be displayed and confirming that the club are happy with them.

If the GB are not out to cause embarrassment there can be no objections.

 

* UEFA and * Linfield.

 

You can consider yourself whatever you want, that's none of my concern which is why I ignored it when you asked.

So let's play your veto idea out - who do the club appoint who can deem what is seen to be acceptable? We already know from the last however many years AGMs that they oppose fan representation so that isn't going to happen - it is going to be a PLC puppet or a suit from the board.

Then what happens - every banner is inspected, every one which isnt 'Let's Go Celtic' or 'inVIncibles' or 'Come On You Bhoys In Green' or something like that is removed. Every single one. The Green Brigade then have no voice, they are cheerleaders, puppets really. You are free to advocate whatever you want but there is more chance of us having a blue home kit next season than that being agreed to.

How do you see the veto being played out?

For you're final point, and this probably goes to the heart of my original comment - cause embarrassment to who? Who is it that is sitting in their house/office this morning embarrassed about those banners last night?

 

Do those who condemn last night also condemn Leigh Griffiths for lifting the bottle off the pitch and incurring a yellow card which will ultimately lead to us being fined by UEFA?

 

The fact it will cause offence to some people has everything to do with political correctness.
May I ask your opinion on the display last year againt hapoel?
Why not include Martin McGuinness on your list?
Football without politics is utopia to say the least and there is * all that can be done about it.

 

Anyone got a sewing kit I could borrow?

Got a pair of breeches that have seen better days...they're almost threadbare at the knees!

 

Yes.

Griffiths brought it upon himself for not getting on with it, and has embarrassed the club over "ScarfGate".