1. Having trouble logging in by clicking the link at the top right of the page? Click here to be taken to the log in page.
    Dismiss Notice

what is our solid base for rebuilding

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by gunt, Apr 6, 2008.

Discuss what is our solid base for rebuilding in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. maggiethatcher

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2007
    Messages:
    1,340
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    in a hut at the top of a tree
    Fav Celtic Song:
    never walk alone
    iv recently begun to see caldwell as a holding midfielder. he was good in that position alst season but his passing was poor - his passing has improved however so i would stick balde in next to him. i would play riordan up front with jvoh or samaras because he can actually create (not good enough for the wing imo) as well as score. naka should be dumped for robson or hinkel on the wing or mizuno or anyone capaple of playing on the right - maybe brown after his ban.

    in terms of squad i would keep:

    boruc
    mick, caldwell, o'dea, wilson, hinkel, doumbe, caddis
    hartley, sno, mcgeady, mizuno, robson
    mcdonald, samaras, hutchinson

    i would also promote a few reserves maybe cuthbert, mcgowan, quinn, mcglinchey
     
  2. Johnbhoy67

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2006
    Messages:
    737
    Likes Received:
    0
    For next season we need two CB's with pace and ability. Short term we need a holding midfield player. The huns have made superstars of the two arseholes they have at the back by playing two holding midfield players. That's a bit extreme for us but one would be good right now. Because of the lack of talent in our central mid an already shaky defence gets horribly exposed. Do you think if Lennon had been playing against the huns they would have scored that goal? No chance. Before we defend or attack we must win the midfield battle and when was the last time we did that?
     
  3. ellboy

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2007
    Messages:
    4,062
    Likes Received:
    1
    Fav Celtic Player:
    BOBO,AIDEN,ATRUR,NAKA
    All questions that cant be answered until he is tried their. IMO if Caldwell is being identified as a possible DM player then Odea has an equal chance as he does to be a success for that position.
     
  4. Johnbhoy67

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2006
    Messages:
    737
    Likes Received:
    0

    Possibly but Caldwell has played there at international level whereas O'Dea would have to learn the position.
     
  5. vcfc

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2008
    Messages:
    444
    Likes Received:
    0
    Shall we try every player in every posistion just in case they are better playing somewhere else rather than in their current place? Yes some players are more versatile than others - such as Caldwell - but O'Dea hasn't been tried in that posistion even for the reserves so it's safe to say it's a total non-starter.
     
  6. ellboy

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2007
    Messages:
    4,062
    Likes Received:
    1
    Fav Celtic Player:
    BOBO,AIDEN,ATRUR,NAKA
    Caldwell for me is equaly inept in every position.

    He grabs is a poor tackler, loses balence. loses his oponents far to often and his passing quality is a myth.

    Odea has ability he is not a LB and should be given a run at CB. I mentioned him as a possible DM player as to me it is more plausable to develop a young impressionable mind to play a certain position than an old head in Caldwell

    He has played once or twice for Scotland as a DM player Caldwell but a few games in a career in that position dosent make you a DM player anymore than it currently makes Odea.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 6, 2008
  7. ellboy

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2007
    Messages:
    4,062
    Likes Received:
    1
    Fav Celtic Player:
    BOBO,AIDEN,ATRUR,NAKA
    Sno plays up front for Holland but has never featured in that position for our first team or reserves. So your argument that Odea hasnt played DM for Celtic and he wouldnt be good in that position is based on what.?
     
  8. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    May 8, 2007
    Messages:
    71,096
    Likes Received:
    36,221
    O'Dea isn't good enough imo and thats the reason he will never be a first team regular. Caldwell will stay no matter what manager comes in though.
     
  9. maggiethatcher

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2007
    Messages:
    1,340
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    in a hut at the top of a tree
    Fav Celtic Song:
    never walk alone
    when has sno ever played up front for holland?
     
  10. gary b

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2007
    Messages:
    1,879
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thats a bit of a bold statement considering the present manager is still in post.I think there are very few of the present squad who can be absolutely certain of their place next season,new manager or not.
     
  11. maggiethatcher

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2007
    Messages:
    1,340
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    in a hut at the top of a tree
    Fav Celtic Song:
    never walk alone
    sno has played nine positions for the dutch under-21 squad so i wouldnt use him as an example
     
  12. Johnbhoy67

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2006
    Messages:
    737
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'm only looking short term to give us some respectability for the rest of the season. For next season I want two quality CB's with pace who can defend and then we could do without a holding player. Right now we don't have that so a holding player is necessary.
     
  13. aaastiff

    Joined:
    May 23, 2005
    Messages:
    798
    Likes Received:
    1
    i know get rid off the 1st team and bring reserves in then we will win the treble
     
  14. gary b

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2007
    Messages:
    1,879
    Likes Received:
    0
    I meant to add that Caldwell has played well over the past month or so(never thought I'd be posting that!)Still not good enough IMO.
     
  15. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    May 8, 2007
    Messages:
    71,096
    Likes Received:
    36,221
    Being in contact with a number of people within the game he is rated, that's all that is based on.
     
  16. vcfc

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2008
    Messages:
    444
    Likes Received:
    0
    I said in an earlier post - some players are versatile and some aren't.

    Has O'Dea played DM for Ireland?

    What about Boruc at centre forward? He is tall, strong, good in the air and comfortable with both feet.
     
  17. gunt

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2006
    Messages:
    16,668
    Likes Received:
    9
    yeah but it is relevant-which on of the two CBs will play with our summer wonder CB? I think its got to be Caldwell. He is now showing he is a footballer. Not sure Mick is.
     
  18. Martin

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    Messages:
    10,689
    Likes Received:
    1
    Caldwell has been good for a month and poor for a long time. Mick has been poor for a short period and pretty steady for a long time. Why does it have to be Caldwell?
     
  19. gary b

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2007
    Messages:
    1,879
    Likes Received:
    0
    If it was up to me Id be bringing in 2 wonder CB's in the summer.
     
  20. Johnbhoy67

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2006
    Messages:
    737
    Likes Received:
    0
    Absolutely, none of our CB's are good enough. They are too slow and defend too deep because of it. We need guys with pace and ability.