what is our solid base for rebuilding

I would disagree with those who despair of our squad standard. Its the best in Scotland. There is a very decent core in terms of what we can realistically expect as an SPl club usually spending 1-3 million: Artur, Hinkel, Wilson, Caddis, Hartley, Brown, Aidan, Naka Robson, Skippy, Koki, Samaras, Hutchinson Deeks etc. Now that is a largely young and very talented group of players by SPL standards. They really are a more skilled group than we have had in some time but they have not formed into a great team. We have some very good reserves too. I feel that it would not take a fortune to mould this group into a very strong team. I personally would add the best 4 or 5 reserves to the above list and buy three players: experienced quality CB, an experienced quality CM fit for the British type game and a good LB. A more imaginative a and flexible tactical appraoch could see this core produce attractive winning football. The main thing we need to buy in is the steel downt the core. Thats nearly impossible to bring through youth.

We should lose: Naylor (what is his problem??-am fed up with him because he can play very decent but he isnt bothering so f**k him), Mick (more Aberdeen type level than Celtic), Bobo (we can do better, getting on a bit-pace will go soon), Donati (talent but no heart-hence his iffy career to date), JFK (sad but we cant wait 5 years for an injured player), Grav (headless chicken and getting on a bit old now). JVOH looked to be a bg asset for us for a month or so after Xmas but has reverted to type recenty, his lack of mobility is limiting to our tactics and he is now starting to get on a bit for a target man type player. I think he has done his job for us but we should now move him on if we can but i think he will likely linger for a Bosman move. Some would no doubt add Naka to that list but he could be a very useful player in the right formation.

 

definately add naka to that list, passenger who occassionally scores wonderful goals,at celticc we need more
we were talking at the game yesterday and came to the conclusion that maybe naka has it in his contract that if he is fit he plays or the moneymen call the shots due to the lucrative market of japan, we can understand this even if we dont like them but surely,surely when the guy continues to have pish games he gets subbed

 

A clearout of ageing players is definately needed..

JVOH can go for a fee seeing as he's getting games and goals for Holland.. Someone will buy him for around £2 million..
I like Samaras and how he drops deep to look for the ball , and runs at defences , but would have to be a new manager's decision to keep him.
We have missed Kenny Millers pace , and an intelligent striker with good pace that can run the channels is a must..

Skippy and Samaras don't quite fit into that category for me but they are close.. I think if Birmingham go down then the club should try and get a player like Cameron Jerome..

I can't decide on defence because as the season has gone on (apart from basic individual errors) it's been our lack of goals that have cost us points.. In past seasons we always had defenders making mistakes but we overlooked that because we put 3 or 4 in the other net..

If there's room in the squad for a young central defender to be brought in then Zander Diamond has come on this season and would be a cheap option.. An experienced guy like Sylvan Distin would be ideal.. Probably cost close to £4 or £5 million though..

 

What happened to our subtle, superior football ?

 

Kenny Miller are you having a laugh?

We scored less goals last season than this season so far.

Main job for a striker?

TO SCORE GOALS.

 

Sorry American dude , but Im not getting into arguements with fuckwits like you , about football debates when you don't even know half the arguements you get involved in , but still stick your nose into them for the sake of it.. The zonal marking debate being a case and point..

I stated we missed Kenny Millers pace in the team.. If you don't agree then good for you..

Strachan stated that before the Rangers game.. He forgot to mention we had more points from less goals at thios time last season..

Keep your stats..

 

Defonitely wouldn't bring in zander diamond as he is absoulotely pish he's no better than what we have got the now, just another mcmanus but worse.

 

To be fair he was outstanding against Dinipro , and Bayern Munich at Pittodrie this season , and would be cheap..

Im not too big a fan just feel whoever comes in , will have to buy a mixture of cheep and cheerfull and a few experienced heads..

If we get a manager who knows the European market then I agree , Im sure we can get better elsewhere..

 

Defonitely mate but as a celtic supporter you have to expect a bit better than the likes of zander diamond. As a matter of fact whenever i hear celtic being linked with other spl players i cringe unless you know that they are really good because i am sick of celtic wasting their money on these bit part players. But yes if you look around the european market you can find a lot better.

 

I know what you mean because the majority don't really go up a level when they get to Parkhead but we haven't done bad with Skippy , Mcnamara , Boyd and Collins in the past and to be fair to Lambert he'd probably never have been at our club if Dortmund felt homegrown players in Scottish football weren't worth a second glance..

 

Yes i know what your saying but remember that is five out of really big majority of failures i wouldn't like to estimate the number of spl failures that we have signed in the last 15 years or so its quite scary

 

Zander Diamond, are you * me?

As for clearing out older players, I think we have a young squad as it is, but you need balance.

A new management team could bring the best out of this team. Its frightening how many flaws you can pick out of Strachans reign. Two easy seasons papered over the cracks.

Wish we had brought in a new manager before that last old firm game, I do believe we would have won the league!

 

I'd keep

Boruc

Hinkel - CB - McManus - LB

McGeady - Brown - Hatley - LW

Samaras - McDonald

Subs: Gk, O'Dea, Caddis, Sno, MF, Riordan, CF

Get rid of Jan, Naka, Caldwell, Doumbe, Donati, Pressley, M.Brown Naylor and some others but obviously keep the future youth players like Sheridan, Hutchison, Misuno, etc..

Some players I'd look at are Bouma - is he still out of contract at the end of the season? - for LB. A.Frei for CF, Ireland for MF and can't really think of decent options for CB and LW on what our budget will be.

 

whats a solid base for rebuilding


eh a floor

 

Need a good solid concrete foundation first, otherwise your floor will sink.

 

Our big problem all season has been the centre midfield. To put not too fine a point on it they have been dire. Doesn't matter what combination you use they have all been found wanting.

As a damage limitation exorcise for the rest of season I would bring Bobo back and push Caldwell into the holding role. We need someone to anchor the midfield and let our creative players create. Defensive frailties and lack of goals can all be pointed at the central players.

Something has drastic has to be done or we are looking at a really embarassing few weeks. I don't know if the players are letting Strachan down or Strachan is letting the players down. What I do know is that they are both letting the supporters down. We deserve more. A lot more.

 

No. Screw the holding mid problem, play Hartley or Sno there. Get me a CB and a CF that can score constantly(e.g. R. Keane). We missed that against Motherwell and the second cup game against Aberdeen.

 

Honestly we have a good squad its heart and fight we need

 

Obvious it has been for an age you build a solid fondation from the back and a strong spine.

Poor CB´s equaly poor CM´s need replaced with real quality.