MMA Thread

Literally the only arguments being made for Cormier are "Nick Diaz and Cerrone are not Top 10", "He's an Olympic wrestler", "Cain is his pal". Very good!

Once again the argument isn't that Cormier is good, or deserves to be where he is... the argument is that he's Top 10 all time. It was said he could be considered the GOAT if it wasn't for Jones. I just want someone to tell me how he's even Top 10... that's all I ask!

 

Mate you're calling Nick Diaz and Cowboy Cerrone all time greats, then trying to make out Cormier is some sort of jobber.

You're either at the wind up or just wired tae the moon.

 

Can you tell me when I called Cormier a jobber? All I said is he isn't Top 10 all time.

 

In your opinion.

But your opinion doesn't get taken seriously when you post * like you have since Cormier beat your boy, again.

 

Im simply saying that he has only one defeat on his record, to the guy most of the MMA community seem to think is the best ever....and he gave him a good fight. I honestly think if Jones wasnt around, he would have to be considered among the best ever...so far! I dont think myself he is the best, but he is certainly worth considering. I dont see how you can deny that. I dont particularly enjoy watching him, but he is very very good.

 

Again, can you tell me when I called Cormier a jobber? Can you also give me a Top 10 Cormier makes it into?

Do you want me to give you another All time 10 that are above Cormier?

Jones, GSP, Velasquez, Anderson Silva, Machida, Aldo, BJ Penn, Cruz, Franklin, Werdum. There's many more. No Diaz or Cerrone in sight, who wouldn't be Top 10 for me but what they've done, who they've beat and how they've done it put them above Cormier for me.

 

He can be considered the greatest Light-Heavyweight. Not Pound-for-Pound all time.

 

In your opinion.

Are you retarded? All MGM said was if Jones wasn't about Cormier could have a claim.

Your trying to talk down Cormier's achievements but saying people, who have far worse records than him against lower level opponents are better than him. Thing is, I think everyone I've seen commenting on Cormier in here has criticised his style and find him boring but still respect him as a great. You seem to think him being a top tier wrestler is some sort of negative when it comes to achievements in the octagon.

You're losing the plot.

 

That's you told

 

Grow up mate.

You said I made out Cormier was a jobber. MGM said he could be considered the greatest if it wasn't for Jones, I'm saying he isn't and isn't in the Top 10 of all time. It's an opinion that I've backed up. I actually said multiple times I wasn't denying his ability or his achievements. But there are many people in this sport who have achieved a lot more. If you think it's all about records you're just wrong.

 

Anyone can use stats and achievements to fit their own arguments.

The fact is Cormier can say the only person whoever beat him was the GOAT. Anyone can use that to support their arguement that Cormier is an all time top 10 and you can argue all you like, but it's probably a better argument than 99% of other fighters people consider top ten all time.

 

Is is true that Weidman is 0-3 in the USADA era?

Interesting if accurate

 

Why are you not doing that then? All you're basing it on is the fact Jones is the only one to beat him.

Look at the bigger picture. Look at how I've actually broken down his career and why I think he isn't top 10 all time. Come back with something intelligent instead of calling me a * or saying I've lost the plot. If you did that then maybe I'd be able to see where you're coming from. Tell me how Cormier is better than anyone on this list of names I gave you there.

 

You haven't broken down his career though. You've tried to downplay his ability though because he's a wrestler.

Fucksake you said Gustafson is better than him and he nearly proved it. That doesn't make sense. By using that argument, your own incidentally, surely Cormier proved he's better than Silva.



And before you come back rambling some *. I actually don't think Cormier is better/greater/high ranked than Silva. I'm just using your own argument.

 

I'm bored now. * broken record the amount of times I've said I'm not denying his achievements and ability. I downplayed his career because he's managed to miss some huge fights, some of the wins he did have were when people were on the downward slope of their career.

Gustafson v Cormier is a bit different than Silva v Cormier. One was a war and one was an exhibition fight.

 

Just finished watching, was disappointed with rumbles performance, I think he'd already lost before he went in there to be honest.

Not the biggest fan of DCs style of fighting, but credit to the guy, he doesn't half get the job done.

Wonder if Jones can stay on the straight & narrow long enough to give us a rematch with DC?

 

Jones is just fine now, Cormier said it himself when he was asked if he trusts Jones. His last * up could have happened to anyone.

 

He looked well the other night, really hope we get to see it happen, DC seems to be dominating everyone else in the division.

I think jones looks to be the only one capable of causing him any real bother at the moment.

 

Dana says he doesn't trust him as a main event so we will have to see, Cormier says the only man he would co-main event to is McGregor.