Strachans fault?

i dont agree with that mate. the club hasn't changed much since MON left and he got thompson, sutton and hartson to come here, WGS is clueless and his signings since he came here have been * apart from a few exceptions. MON had an eye for a player and turned a few nobodies into top players as well as signing experienced pro's

 

thompson, sutton and hartson where not exactly top of their game when he bought them and they where 6 mil each.
Gs will not be able to sign players for that much and signing now from the english market is a no good as of late because of the prices,
that is also a reason it is much more difficult to get the better players, the english will be able to price us out of any player we want to go for

 

People talks about the team without heart. It isn't a yes/no question, so I wouldn't tell anyone they are some liars.
But I personally can't see that the players playes without motivation, and for me they all seems full of energy and will. But with a big lack of compusore in the area, and experience (a young team overall), and without that luck Rangers seem to have at this moment. It seems to me that they players know they got a scoring-problem at the moment, and it hunts them psychogically.
And I isn't telling people they have to like Gordon Strachan, but I think it's unfair to call for his head because of his personally.

I admit we are under a kind of crisis at this moment we have to get rid of before the Old Firm games.

But I simply disagree when people says we under Strachan playes * most of the time. I remember the Martin O'Neill days, and I prefer Gordon Strachans way to play football.

Not saying Strachan are better than O'Neill or *. They are two different kinds of managers who can't compares.

As I say... if people think O'Neill was a lot better that's all fair to me... He have some good players and an excellent captain (not as a footballer, but as a captain). Strachans team isn't overall as good as the Seville days, but still playing a way of football I love, and I prefer MY CELTIC team to play.

Slate me. * slate me. But I'm telling you... this team isn't that * as people saying, and I would kill to got a manager who playes the way Strachan does. As child I was a football geek who watchs a lot of * english, spanish, danish and scottish football. Maybe it's the different between us. People talks about the Celtic way, and I talk the football way.

 

But that's the point Christian...when Strachan came be told all who would listen about his glorious "total football" theory and how we should be playing the game.

3 years later we're now on Strachan's "Team 3" and we're out of both domestic cup competitions at QF stages (which for us is like the 1st round), we scraped through to the last 16 of the CL (don't forget we still have not won away from home in CL) and we're 6 points behind in the league with a team full of gutless prima donnas who show NO fight and NO motivation. Don't be fooled by last night's "fightback", as it was nothing more than throwing in cross after cross hoping JVoH or Samaras would get on the end. If that's the way you like your football played then so be it mate, but I for one don't want that * to continue one day longer.

 

get it out christian mate ur boakin like the rest of us, i respect ur opinion mate, and im not here to slag off fellow tims, but i aint happy watching the football im getting off the team i luv. strachans bin found wanting tactically, hes holding players back from their own style of fitba, just to suit the type he wants, strachans a loser .......... go on ask how many covenrty fans would want him back, or southampton for that matter, he was a cheap option for the money men, nothing more nothing less

 

We still not agree.
As I say before;

"But I personally can't see that the players playes without motivation, and for me they all seems full of energy and will. But with a big lack of compusore in the area, and experience (a young team overall), and without that luck Rangers seem to have at this moment. It seems to me that they players know they got a scoring-problem at the moment, and it hunts them psychogically."

And I still mean that.

Maybe we could fight more intense, but when it happens... like the first Old Firm... we just get stupid bookings and a lot of freekicks that throwing the time away. IMO we need experience, compusore in the area and purely luck.
Look at Scott Brown. A true fighter with heart, but how often he gets anything out of this play?

And we need players who believe in them self, and supporters who supports the team

"Don't be fooled by last night's "fightback", as it was nothing more than throwing in cross after cross hoping JVoH or Samaras would get on the end."

That's because we paniced. Not because this is the way we want to play.

 

Do you realize what Strachan has done?

In my opinion, we should be judging managers on their results and he has done a pretty good job with that the past three years: two (hopefully three) SPL titles, Scottish Cup and Scottish League Cup championships and two straight advancements to the Champions League's Round of 16.

I think we are so quick to let managers go in all sports when there is one season that doesn't meet our expectations (I know that is definitely the case in American sports). Even if we don't win the SPL this year, I personally don't see a reason to let him go. Nobody can be perfect all the time.

Prior to his arrival at Celtic Park, Celtic had won just four of the previous 17 SPL titles (and just 4-of-8 after Rangers finished off their streak of nine in a row). And his titles the past two years were clinched incredibly early with significant point advantages in the final tables over Rangers and the rest of the SPL clubs.

Celtic had won just 3-of-10 Scottish Cups prior to his arrival. Celtic had not won any of the previous four Scottish League Cups prior to his arrival (and just three of the previous 22). Celtic had not made the Round of 16 in the Champions League (then called the European Cup) since the 1988-89 season.

What exactly has he done that deserves letting him go? Every coach has a down year.

 

Well put mate. You know yer stuff.

 

Ermm....exactly mate....and that's Strachan's team playing his tactics. We had 20 mins to get one goal to go into extra time and in those 20 mins the side done nothing worthwhile. Punt after punt into the box.....hopeless.

You're entitiled to your opinion as is your right, but I can't sit and watch my team playing like that and accept it as the best option...no way!

 

BAWZ look at who rangers have brought in upfront?? look how much they paid for them, look who WGS brought in? look how much they cost us? look at the waste on the bench cheap strikers with there heart in the game to score goals and make something of themselfs at celtic park.

 

i totally agree. Strachan has no idea. Tactics were non existent, substitution should have been made 10 minutes before aberdeen scored, even i could see that. Players dont know what theyre supposed to be doin. panic football at the end. ffs, aberdeen at home should be a banker. * sick of it.

 

Thanks you've actually strengthened my point !

Rangers too are in a similar market to us, they buy players that are a risk, Darcheville cant play for 90 mins, the jury is out on Boyd, Cousin doesnt want to play for them and McCulloch isnt a first name on the team sheet.

We have had success in the past with risky buys and we've had failures too.........
No club in Italy would touch DiCanio, Cadete was almost out of the game in Potugal, and who was happy when we bought Lubo ?
Donatis circumstances when we bought him were similar to DiCanio's, but he has been a disappointment, Skippy has been tremendous so far (although he looked dead on his feet last night)and Big Jan has been as disappointing as he has injury prone.

Like I said we are in the business of taking risks with our signings, some work out some dont.

I'm sure every player that is signed by Peter Lawell And Gordon Strachan, is signed because they beleieve that they are are signing the best player available, within our budget/wage structure, who is willing to play in the SPL and who represents the minimal risk.

 

I don't like Strachan and I disagree with a lot of what he does, but he has been unlucky this season. Rangers are just as hopeless this year as they were last difference being is that they have more bite. Rangers have no skill, hence they are in the UEFA cup

 

yeah but a good manager gets the best of his players, both good and average. strachan aint doin it.

 

I dont disagree, but he may already be getting the best out of some of them.
Skippy is performing better with us than he did at Motherwell, but Broon isnt performing as good as he did when he was ay Hibs.
Depends what way you look at it I suppose !

 

No question yesterday we without being brilliant clearly created more then enough chances to win. But we simply didn't take our chances. Reality is unless something dramatic happens we are going to win nothing and have our worst season since 1999. We didn't win anything in 2003 either but that was Sevilla so hardly a bad season.
This season we simply have been way too inconsistent and have now gone out of both domestic cups at home which really is bull *.
Normally I am up beat and positive but I have to say I don't fancy our chances in the league unless we win this weekend convincingly against Gretna as goal difference could be a decider and then we must win at eyepox. Our season is on the line no doubt about it and the teams backs are very much against the wall. What character what kind of performances will we see from this team the next 2 games. We need to have a very big postive reaction and have a team show a real hunger and aggressive attitude to get after things starting next Sunday against Gretna.

 

i think strachans time is up his tactics are rediculas he plays hessilink upfront with mc donald i think he should have had big sammy on with mc donald and even sno on for donati, and why does he insist on bringing new players to the team if he sticks them in reserves all the time like mizuno and hutchison who both had cracking games against rangers on monday, if i had to pick a new manager i think the united boss craig levin

 

Strachan is just a crap manager...he was crap at Coventry and he was crap at Southampton...why did the board think he was going to be great at Celtic?

 

we have sno on 1 game then it,s massimo the next what i,ve seen of the 2 of them this year there *. keep paul hartley in midfield, at lease he try,s, voh seems to slow, no cess about him.

 

Because he's a yes man and knows how to be frugal with money