How bad was our European campaign

Campaign !

work in an organized and active way toward a particular goal,

series of operations intended to achieve a particular objective, confined to a particular area, or involving a specified type of fighting

I'm finding it difficult to class our performance in Europe as a campaign. We were not organized enough, didn't work hard enough and didn't show any fight so we were never likely to achieve our particular objective which was to progress through the rounds.

The management can only do so much but the players let us down individually and collectively.

I can't think of one positive thing that the team, the club or the supporters could take from Europe this year. Ronny talks a great game and says all the right things but what my ears hear and what my eyes see are miles apart.

unfortunately it is not only in Europe that we have under achieved. Lets hope next year will see major improvement but i am not optimistic at the moment

 

Yes it is but it still stands to reason that the bigger spenders generally progress further and win the European tournaments as I also pointed out. I don't think it's up for debate, budgets certainly play a large part in a teams success, and to think otherwise is nonsense.

We are not getting value for money.

 

See i believe it is the Job of the manager to motivate his players to derive the best out of them or replace the player with others who are willing to listen and implement the tactics/plan being provided by the management.

either way it is the managements fault for not getting the best out of a player or getting players in who want to work hard for him?

 

I agree that budgets play a part. However, the gap between the very top teams in Europe and the rest is far greater than the one between ourselves and the likes of Malmo.

 

Sure - when at home on Champions League nights, with what even opponents will admit is the best support and atmosphere in Europe. And now we lose at home to a team that finished 6th in Norway with a budget a tiny fraction of ours.

How long will it take to get back to those days? The sad part is that many on these forums seem to be just fine with the answer of "never".

 

Europe has been the biggest let down in the past two seasons. O'Neill, Strachan and Lennon had raised the bar as far as our success in Europe had been. Apart from the Inter games the last 2 years have been in the main pish. Maybe lacked a little luck at times this season but in the main it was a huge dissapointmrnt. Think the calibre of the sides we failed against was damning.

 

Welcome to the post 2008 Celtic support, mate. We could dwindle into horrible proportions and many within the support will voluntary state with enthusiasm that the CEO is infallible, everything to blame is all external never internal at the Club (they repeat it so compulsory to make it true), nothing is to worry about because its about a greater plan (unrealistic recruitment policy) and your best leading your concentration into Sevco.

Repeat after me, Lawwell is * and if you don't like it you're not a Celtic fan.

 

This. Results were deffo terrible but we had some signs of progress, some performances were amazing at times, but we let ourselves down every time. I'm quietly confident going forward of us starting to do pretty well in Europe.
That said, this, for me, is Ronnies last chance. I really want him to succeed here though as his ideas and methods are sound just think he's been learning the 'big club manager' thing as he's went. Which is natural considering the club he came from. Mon Ronnie!