Scottish based players

The last few posts here are frankly embarassing. Scottish talent let us down.. away and sling yer hoop. we were * across the board. literally from board room, to management, to the team. Where you referring to Brown there by the way when you referred to scottish talent?

Armstrong is a clever, useful player and will become a mainstay. GMS has more ability on the ball than most of the players who we already have and is one of the few who can beat a man one v one.
Griffiths is a bampot but he is the best goalscorer we have and doesnt give folk a minutes peace.
Forrest has been scrutinised yet probably displayed the most desire out of anyone.

 

the nationality is irrelevant. its wether the player is good enough.
Players who already play within the SPL should represent the smallest risk seeing as they have already demonstrated that they can excel in the Scottish game.

Yes its good to help bring on talent from our home country. the signings we made were justified and bought on obvious merit.

 

Well reading some folk, Griffiths is now *, Commons is now *, Scottish players in general are *, it's all reactionary bollocks, the reality is that until the 2 Dundee lads came in and breathed a huge breath of fresh air into the team from the off the main threads on this forum in January were concerned about whether Aberdeen would last the pace in the SPL let alone us competing in Europe.

 

I think Shinnie would have been a decent bet.

But I think now, we are possibly only looking at a couple of players here at the moment, for me the boy Souttar and to a lesser extent maybe Rooney from Aberdeen, apart from that I think it's time to look abroad and try and get the scouts getting back to those days when we brought in a good few gems when Lenny was just in.

 

Pawel Brozek, Jean Doumbia, Lassad, Miku, Juarez, Rasmussen, Pukki, Bangura.
for every gem, we had to go through a few duds. Its no different to buying playeers within Scotland. As previosly stated, we missed out on a few Scottish "gems" also who would have made us a lot of money had we trusted them and bought them at the time when they were on top of their game in the SPL.
If you look at the team Mourinho cherry picked from the portugese league when he took over Porto. Derlei, Maniche, Costinha, Valente, feirrera.
Okay so we dont have the player pool as talented domestically as Portugal. But he achieved this initail success buying largely home based players, manyh of whom sold on for good profit.

 

Christie also looks a player. Jack of Aberdeen. Mclean would have been availible cheap had we moved before Aberdeen.

 

Firstly, who mentioned Brown ?

Armstrong might well be a clever player. But he is not a winger.

Don't know what happened to GMS on Tuesday. Was he injured ?

Forrest, I'm a fan of so wouldn't criticise him. Although I do feel he could have worked harder tracking back to help out Janko.

Griffiths might be a goalscorer, but is he clinical enough to be our main man in Europe ? Is he good enough to play as a lone striker in Europe ?

There's a reason the national team is *.

And Scottish teams flop year after year in European qualifiers against diddy teams.

 

Total wrong direction. Any decent player from Scotland we have signed.

Jack etc will go on to nothing past this level.

 

GMS, Armstrong and Allan may not have caused the defeat the other night but they're not at CL level, at least not yet. We have to be more clever in our recruitment as opposed to just picking off the star players from other Scottish teams. You don't find a Wanyama like that, you don't get a striker like Gary Hooper from the English lower divisions like that. For me this recruitment policy doesn't give us the best possible chance of getting to the level required to be competitive in the group stages of the champions league.

 

We need to sneak some moles into the Barcelona academy and see what they're doing.

Or get in with the Vatican like we rightfully should and get drip fed their trillions of poonds.

I can't find my tin-foil hat.

 

Well thats exactly my point- It was said that our Scottish talent let us down. Was Brown included in this as i assume this shot was aimed at Armstrong and GMS? To be honest the whole point was *. When you look at how badly Johansen played, Bitton also.. the problem wasnt localised to Scottish players, it was across the board. to suggest it was only our scottish talent who let us down was moronic. Gordon made a crucial double save. He is Scottish talent.

Armstrong isnt wide midfielder. Im in agreement that he is wasted in that position. But he did offer us some direct running into the box and won us a few corners and played a few balls into the box. Id have said there was a good few worse than him and I was surprised they hooked him before Johansen. I think Armstrong has quality on the ball.

Forrests final ball leaves a lot to be desired. But he is finally getting a decent injury free run of games and I think he has shown a lot of desire in recent games.

I think Griffiths could score a few in europe, but not when the team crumbles like it did. He is isolated a lot and i think he would benefit from having a strong, hold up player alongside him. with that being said, he should have buried the volley on his right foot when the keeper and defenders hesitated and he was lucky to be on the park after kneeing that guy in the stones. mindless.
Is griffiths good enough? time will tell. but at the moment we dont have better and we cant afford better so we go with what we have. was Scott Mcdonald good enough? some said no, but he still managed to score goals in the champions league.

Yeah there is a reason our national team isnt producing better quality players but that wont improve if the home clubs dont trust and play our talent in favour of foreigners. we have to bring through and develop the youth of tomorrow and that youth is ultimitely who will form our football club (the mcgeadys, forrests etc) and who will make us money.

 

thats purely your opinion. these are suggestions. Im of the opinion its better to sign a player who is proven within a league and is of an age where development is possible. players we know about.
back down to reality now, we didnt make the champions league. with that blow comes the harsh reality that a certain calibre of player will turn their head to us as we cannot offer football on the europes biggest stage.

 

Why hasn't Ronny said anything about a token Irishman as well ?

 

Would have liked to sign Shinnie, he's a good left back and on a free he was a bargain, shame we missed out on him. Souttar is the only other one I'd look at. No one else in the league would get into the team IMO. Not saying Souttar would walk into the team but he's only 18 and there's potential there. We've signed a few duds but we've also signed a few cracking players. I'd be looking abroad for players again and hope we can sign another gem or 2