john collins

as always , but it's frustrating .

 

Off topic - mods feel free to move this.

Yes it is softening. Keltoi asked me to let up on him until the end of the season. It's a reasonable request, so I agreed.

Also I have been shocked by some of the * posted recently by the panic merchants. We are still going to win the league. Every team has a wobble during a season, it's normal. We are having ours just now which is no great surprise as we have a ridiculous situation with injuries to our defenders and we have come off the back of a very busy period with a lot of tough games.

I'm not going to say I want another manager either, JC for example, who I do not believe would be a better appointment.

A manager with a 100% record in titles should be safe in his job. I don't like him but if he wins the league every year then sacking him would be insane.

 

I'm not going to argue about that mate - as I could be wrong.

Anyone else remember this ?

 

Collins moved to AS Monaco in the summer of 1996 on a free transfer under the bosman. Celtic, under the direction of fergus, attempted to obtain compensation for the loss of Collins. McCann argued that the Bosman ruling did not apply to this case because AS Monaco are based in the principality of monacoand are outside of european union jurisdiction

 

It does sound like The Bunnet mind you.....:icon_mrgreen:

 

yip your right ,monaco is a principality and is not in europe and celtic wanted money for him ,that saga lasted ages and celtic got nothing

 

Im with you to a degree martin, i'm never a fan of him but some of the criticism is uncalled for, in a way he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
As long as he's succesful we have to accept that he's the man and makes the decisions, no matter how much I disagree with them.

 

games won lost drawn
collins 31-10-2006 Present 54 23 16 15

strachan 31-05-2005 Present 126 83 22 21

 

Southampton 22-10-2001 13-02-2004 110 39 39 32
Coventry 05-11-1996 10-09-2001 215 70 89 56

 

it wont come out the way i want it to

anyway
southampton games 110 won 39 lost 39 draw 32
coventry games 215 won 70 lost 89 draw 56

 

martin oneill games 282 won 213 lost 40 drawn 29

 

is that the lottery numbers if so ima millionaire YE HAAAAAAAAA

 

John Collins is a first class * who has an attitude problem. A * player revolt after 4 months - *, cmon. Worst suggestion since some old bird told her canoeing husband to dissapear.

 

you think his stats are good ?

 

cmon are they good stats , showing an experienced manager ?

 

Not great no. I accept that. For those clubs and their realistic expectations they are not too bad.

Sometimes tough experiences are what make you experienced. I didn't want him when he got the job. But his stats since did get it are good. Those are the stats that matter in deciding whether or not he deserves to hold on to his job at Celtic.

 

overall

strachan has games 451 won 192 lost 150 drawn 109

i'm only askin , is this a good managerial record ?

 

jamie smith just scored

 

You cant judge WGS on this. It totally depends on who you have managed, not games won.

 

what are realistic expectations ?
what do you mean tough experiences ?
i thought he was bringing his experience to celtic and the spl

2-0 up against ict and losing 3-2 , experience learned ?