Lost for words.

Honestly struggling to take this in, at that age all I was concerned with was toys or playing football, what the * is happening.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/children-aged-just-7-8-accused-rape-103039944.html#f3clTrd


Children Aged Just 7 And 8 Accused Of Rape

Two children, aged seven and eight, were suspected of rape by police last year, figures show.
Their alleged victims were both children themselves, according to the data released by Greater Manchester Police.
Neither of the boys can be charged or taken to court because they are under 10 years old - the age of criminal responsibility.
The seven-year-old was suspected of raping a girl under 13, while the eight-year-old was suspected of raping a girl under 16.
Both alleged incidents happened in the Greater Manchester area.

Detective Superintendent Jon Chadwick told the Manchester Evening News: "It can be upsetting for the victims of these crimes because the normal situation of a court case, most of the time, cannot happen."
He added: "It is always upsetting when very young children are involved in crime and that is why there is a communal responsibility for all agencies to respond, not just to the needs of the victim, but also the offender.
"A child does not just go out and commit a crime; there are a whole host of influences that can lead to an incident occurring."

The two cases were among nearly 1,000 incidents in which children were suspected of committing crimes over the last three years, all released by police under the Freedom of Information Act.

Other significant cases included a nine-year-old girl with a blade at school and a six-year-old caught with cannabis.
Eighty-eight of the cases, involving 119 suspects, were race or religious hate crimes, the figures showed.

Police and crime commissioner for Greater Manchester Tony Lloyd said: "We are all rightly shocked when young children are involved in any criminal behaviour, all the more so when the crimes are serious.
"But what we cannot do is walk away and abandon those children and the community they live in to more crime and more victims."

Between 2011 and 2014, Greater Manchester Police recorded 956 suspects under 10 years old in 764 cases.

 

The statistic at the bottom is even more disturbing. The *.

 

Not much shocks people much these days,but this is feking sickening.
The poor wee girls and their families

 

WHAT? *!

 

* * !

 

What gets me is what will they be capable of when they are older. At my school you only had to look out for the wee * that pulled the legs off of spiders etc but compared to these kids ...

 

It's a really grey area when it comes to the law no procedures are put in place at all you think the lessons would be learned from the bulger case

 

Although they can't be arrested or charged for these crimes this can happen

What happens if a child under 10 breaks the law?


Children under 10 who break the law are treated differently to adults or youths under 18 who commit a criminal offence.

Children under 10 cannot be charged with committing a criminal offence. However, they can be given a:

• Local Child Curfew
• Child Safety Order

Children under 10 who break the law regularly can sometimes be taken into care, or their parents could be held responsible.
Local Child Curfew

The police can ban children from being in a public place between 9pm and 6am, unless accompanied by an *. This is called a Local Child Curfew and can last for up to 90 days.
If a child breaks their curfew, they can be given a Child Safety Order.
Child Safety Order

If a child has committed an offence or broken a Local Child Curfew, they can be placed under the supervision of a youth offending team. This is called a Child Safety Order.
The order normally lasts for up to 3 months, but in some cases it can last for up to 12 months.
If a child doesn’t stick to the rules of an order, the court can consider if the child should be taken into care.

 

this is the day and age we live in.
exposure to the internet, * and violence on t.v must have some bearing on these childrens actions.

when I was that age, the only sexual references we had was our mums littlewoods catalogue.

 

This could be a fairly skewed article though. Don't britain term underage * as rape with the males being the offender? Considering the article has stated that one girl was under 13 and the other under 16 then could be assumed that the 8 year old is accused of raping a 15 year old, under normal circumstances i find it hard to see any 8 year old overpowering someone nearly twice their age. I'm not saying that the crimes didnt occur, perhaps they did, but it also worth considering that the story has been framed in a particular way for shock value

 

You're assuming its girls being raped but id imagine with kids under 10 its probably close to 50/50.

 

This is both bizarre and disturbing, the only explanation is that the parents must be utter scumbags.

Thinking back to when I was 7/8 I just cannot believe how they could be so corrupted into actually knowing what and how to rape someone, and also believing it's ok.

 

It did cross my mind with the large age gap, particularly that young..

 

Ok Sherlock you have deduced what the article has already told you :smiley-laughing002:

Not sure how the article needs to be framed to make it any more shocking either ffs.

 

Because we're given zero facts about either case except ages and the word rape. With no context people automatically assume little kids are out raping each other, if we actually had proper information on the case then it might paint a completely different picture. But this story is 'kids are raping each other and there ain't nothing we can do'. Thats a story that garners attention while provoding little to no substance.

 

What context do you want ? the lassies asked for it or had a short skirt on or she had been drinking ? It has been reported and due to the ages prosecution is not possible sadly.

 

Terrible response,do you have young children.
This story has been released under the freedom of information act,I think that's obvious.
Out of here before I'm banned

 

I don't understand why Wicker Boy is getting so much stick, he raises fairly legitimate points. FOlk are just raging that a big hole has been blown in their 'shock story'. If it said 13 year old rapes an 18 year old - I could believe that 100% - my mate was 6ft 4 at 13. I am struggling to see how a 7 and 8 year old can over power and rape people twice their age.

Also, there is no evidence here it is all 'alleged', yet * have waens down as wee rapists.

What constitutes as 'attempted rape' aswell. In my mind, if an * male held down a female and had his genitals out, or assaulted her or kissed her (all without her permission), I would say that is attempted rape - there is probably much more aswell. However, what constitutes as attempted rape by a 7 and 8 year old on woman twice their age? Holding their genitalia out, jumping on top of them and kissing them? Some people would argue that the wee boys could just have been acting daft then and need a good clip around the ear and taught about what is right and wrong.

Grey areas across the board here. This article could have been framed to give shock factor and most of you well know it.

And this is not condoning rape either - that is a hideous crime. However, I don't blindly believe everything a newspaper writes. Too many questions needing answered with this one.

 

I agree, he's getting it tight but it's what i thought at seeing those ages..