Would you vote for a YES Alliance Party in Scotland

Would you vote for a YES Alliance Party to fight again for Scottish Independence.
The MSPs in this party MUST leave their current party be it SSP, SNP, Greens or whatever party with the sole mandate of gaining Scottish Independence.

 

* YES!! Just posted its time for a Scottish Independence Party.................* off all greedy factions...time for Scottish Independence,.

 

If enough of the heavy hitters of the parties joined the yes. Right now our best bet is with the SNP.

 

Probably not, and therein lies the problem.

 

Just curious, why not.

 

Yes.

 

no my voting days are over .... ive voted labour for nearly 40 years and been lumped with tory governments far too often , I vote for independence an get shafted by selfish me me me bastarts so now I will refrain .

 

I don't think the SSP members who left to join the YES Alliance party would be abandoning their principles. I think they would be able to influence a much bigger party's decision making from inside. They would have a greater chance of making a difference than at present.
They would be able to make sure that social justice is part of the cornerstone of their constitution.

 

In principle sure yes I would vote yes. But be careful with something like this. In 1918 Sinn Fein swept the boards in the general election after WW1 as a single issue party based on seeking Irish indepandance. They dominated every election until 1921 and the treay. Once the treaty was signed they split because it was not a cohesive party fighting on a range of social issues as well as independance and we all know the mess that followed. To my mind while having independance as a key plank of what the party stands for you cannot be a single issue party you need to have positive policies that address the every day bread and butter issues and economic issues that people face in their daily lives.

 

Surely this would be counter productive and split the SNP vote, weakening the mandate for another referendum on Scottish independence.

 

Because if it was a mish mash of different parties and their policies, then some of those policies wont appeal to me.

I prefer to try and elect a party who speaks for me down to the last policy.

Sadly the parties that most speak for me are mere drops in the ocean.

I'm hopeful that this referendum revives this branch of politics though. People coming together the last week in a celebration of all that is good about this country and an unwavering desire to make it even better was inspiring.

 

wasn't the Yes vote a wee bit of a vote for the unknown anyway? then see how the pish flew with the wind?

Baby steps...why not get independence then we can debate our core values as a nation?

 

You wouldn't be voting for independence you would voting a party into power who would then lobby for another referendum, but they would have to set policies in the meantime. I couldn't vote for that party if they had views opposing mine, no matter how much I wanted independence.

You don't need an alliance party anyway, if membership and ultimately votes, are on the increase for pro independence parties then even if they are split they will still be one major voice for that policy in holyrood anyway.

 

no, we've already got one, it's called the SNP.

 

20% of SNP members who voted for SNP in 2010 General election voted NO for Independence.
14% of the voters who voted for SNP in Scottish parliamentary election in 2011 voted NO for independence.

This proves that there needs to be 1 party in place for everyone who wants to see Scotland independent.

 

doesn't really matter if you vote for the SNP In a Scottish election and no in a referendum. the same can be said about a labour supporter voting for labour in a Scottish election and yes in the same referendum. in any event, is it feasible to even have a single party with one single goal, and that goal being independence ?. of course the answer is no, so it stands to reason that this new party will have to wider range of issues other than independence ???
in other words.. the SNP.

 

In a general election or even a Scottish elections a vote for any party with an independent agenda is a must.

SSP have alway aspired to a Socialist Republic and that would be the dream..

One step at a time.. The SNP probably got a better chance of securing independence as they sit in the centre of politics. Although Nicola Sturgeon more to the left than Salmond was!

 

No.
One of the biggest problems of convincing the deluded no voters was the Yes Campaign not having a set manifesto.
Non of these party leaders joining up for an independent party will agree on details that they will later put in to effect in Scotland. We need to work on educating the electoral about what a referendum actually is.
To do that however will be hard in todays world. We need a significant change to main stream media and who the public get their information from.
Not biased papers of either persuasion, or glorified tv broadcasters with clear state allegiance.

The snp in their white paper mentioned about setting up the SBC after Indy, taking the Hq of BBC Scotland, and adding to it. There's nothing to stop us from doing that now. Many people are dropping the BBC, lets give them what they would rather.

 

Unity for Independence Statement

Tommy Sheridan

Over the last couple of days I have been inundated with thousands of facebook and twitter messages from disappointed YES supporters looking for a way forward. I am encouraged so many have decided to become politically involved and stay politically engaged. Leaving politics to the politicians is a recipe for poor governance.

Obviously I welcome those wishing to join my own party Solidarity. We have some of the best activists around and can be contacted at solidarityscotland.org New members are positive. However it is not enough.

What I am about to say is uncomfortable for a socialist like me. I oppose the SNP position on NATO membership, cutting corporation taxes for big businesses, retaining the Queen as a head of State, sharing sterling and other policies. BUT in order to maximise the pro-Independence vote in next May's General Election I believe all YES supporters should vote for the SNP and all other pro-Independence parties should not stand if the SNP candidate will commit to fight for a new Referendum as soon as possible AND against all Westmonster austerity cuts to welfare and public services.

In other words I suggest we in the YES Movement promote continued unity by backing the most likely Independence supporting candidate at next May's election. In concrete terms that means advocating an SNP vote to try and unseat as many pro-NO party supporters as possible. Let's punish the reactionary and dishonest NO parties at the ballot box next May. Let's punish the shameful Labour Party in particular for siding with the Bankers,Bosses, Billionaires and Millionaires to try and crush our dream of a new and better Scotland with an avalanche of fear and lies.

The Holyrood elections in 2016 allow for more socialist, green and diverse candidates to be elected. The Westmonster system doesn't. If SNP candidates commit to fighting for a new Referendum and against austerity cuts let's unite behind them. If successful then we should insist all pro-Independence candidates in the 2016 Scottish election commit to a March 2020 Referendum. This magnificent movement for independence and change can continue and grow. We have youth, energy and hope on our side. Hope can triumph over Fear in 2020. I realise some socialists will find it difficult to support SNP candidates. That is understandable. BUT the stakes are huge now. We cannot let down the 1.6 million who defied the threats and intimidation from the rich to vote for a new and better country and world. Unity is strength. Don't let our differences weaken our cause. ‪#‎HopeOverFear‬ remains our clarion call.(My personal opinion).