What is the least you expect of Ronny Deila this season?

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It's never crossed my mind after a Cup exit, that the Huns might go on to win the trophy. I'm more concerned about why we went out to be honest. Strange that the Huns are the first thing to come to your mind after a cup defeat.

 

We would have to have won 5 one off games to win the SC and 4 to win the LC. So, leaving aside the fact that I agree losing to Morton at CP just wasn't acceptable, that would have needed us to win 9 one off games. Now, if you generously decide that we should be beating these sides 9 times out of 10, that gives a probability of winning the treble of just over one third. Actually, though, our league results most seasons show that we do not win 9 games out of 10 against SPL sides. Last season was exceptional and we won 31 league games out of 38 (about 82%), the season before we won 24 out of 38 (63%). Both seasons with no Rangers. If we take last year's exceptional form of winning 82% of league games, you get a probability of winning all 9 games of just 15%: and that's a season when we were in exceptional form! And you want to call the new manager a failure if he doesn't achieve this?

 

If disagreeing with anything you ever say is how you decide who to talk to and not talk to id imagine you'd have to stop posting on here altogether.

 

No-one is saying it's easy, but he's either good enough for the job or he's not. If he fails to qualify for the CL, I doubt he'll be sacked straight away, but it will put him under pressure straight away and we could easily be looking for another manager next summer.

Celtic have qualified for the CL the last two years running. Even if we lose one or two players, most of that team are intact, so failure to qualify would be a major failure. Deila has to hit the ground running. He was interviewed as a Number 2, but put himself forward for the Number 1 job. He has the job now, he has to deliver from the off. That's the job and CL qualification is now a bottom line part of it, either he's good enough or he's not. There's no honeymoon period in the Celtic job.

 

It's a public forum, mate. It's wasn't a private conversation. I'm sure we sometimes must agree on stuff, mate.
I really think I made a good point though. I honestly can't imagine that professional football players feel less pressure in cup games because they know that at least Rangers won't go on to win it if they lose, which you were arguing.

 

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You're mental, you mean to say you didn't give a jot about handing those manky scum a free passage to a trophy at all? Are you serious? I didn't want them to ever win anything, I wanted us to win EVERYTHING every season and leave them with nothing as I had no faith in Aberdeen, Hibs etc to stop them from winning the cup. Of course I was gutted when we went out the cups because we could no longer win it. But a good example for the support was last season when we got defeated off Aberdeen in the SC, everyone started getting worried(Laughable now I know) that those mankies would have a better chance than us for the cup and would go further than us, that's the way it always will be. The fact you don't care if they win a cup speaks volumes of you as a Celtic fan, you should care, you should want them to never win a cup in any form again and the only real way that would happen is for us to remain in the cups and put those inbreds out. Don't even think about accusing me of being a zombie mate, you're the one who sounds like one every time you post saying you don't care if they win a cup. You should be wanting them to lose at all costs first of all to us but then failing that to ANY other Scottish side.

 

A league and cup double for me.

I'd forgive him in Europe this season as he's new and Lenny and strachan didn't have a great European start themselves and they turned it around.

 

I know it , but that is the minimum we would expect in any other season. If Owen Coyle came in and never got CL qualification he would be hounded out. Forget the cup, CL qualification is important.

Suppose that Lenny and Strachan had poor Euro starts so it is somewhat expected, I still would be disappointed if we never qualified.

 

When did I say he would be a failure, I said I would give some leeway as its his first season in charge and not his players but It's what I expect given the budget we have? There you go again putting false words in my mouth, don't post towards me again as you're lying to try and get some agenda against me, honestly please stop replying to my posts and put me on ignore because I will not debate with someone who lies like that about me on here.

 

Of course there's less pressure and the players have even admitted that themselves and it's easy to see why when your main rivals go out of business, this is my last post towards you so please put me on ignore like Sean Daleer. Thanks.

 

Even Lenny took us to the brink last year (and I rate Lenny!). Winning 3 one off ties is difficult against any opposition (and there are a few decent teams in there if the draw is a bad one forus). The new guy has all that, plus it's not his team, plus he's got no time to get his ideas across, plus playing at Murrayfield. I won't call him a failure if he fails to qualify any year (though I expect him to qualify about 3 years out of 4 under current circumstances) and certainly not this year, when because of the unique factors above, I ratebour chances as only 50/50.

 

What a pathetic post ..

The reason we didn't want those Scumbags winning it this year was because it was at our ground..
No one has accused you of being a hun, you are the one implying that of others..

 

My bad. You didn't say failure. Sorry. You did say you think we should be winning trebles and that Rangers would be doing so. The argument I made above applies to that too.

 

Exciting football is all i want.

 

There's less pressure in the league because of how leagues work, in the cups the pressure is exactly the same. Show me one quote from players saying there's less pressure in cup games because there's no Rangers anymore.

 

Fair enough it was at our ground so even more so. But in previous seasons when we've went out either the League cup or SC Cup and they're still in it, of course the initial reaction is being gutted we're out and can't win it. But then there is a rage that takes over because we have then just gifted them a much easier chance to win it. Did you never feel this way? Am I the only one who never wanted them to win anything every season?

 

I don't think he'll last if he fails to qualify for the CL. Strachan had a bit of experience and resolve behind him and was able to come through that Artmedia exit. With Deila, if he fails at his first hurdles in the qualifiers, I think the job will engulf him and he'll be gone by the end of the season having never have really got going. I hope he gets over those first hurdles.

 

Look mate, I was having a debate with a certain poster, it was just between me and him. You were having a debate with Mannix or whatever his name is and I didn't bother getting involved. So why do you feel you have to gte involved with my posts when I didn't post towards you? Anyway, It's easier to win the cups without a strong Oldco in the way and the pressure is off a bit more imo without them. That's my opinion and we'll leave it at that.

 

Jesus, I hope you're wrong! The guy has built his career on year on year improvement, not instant success. Anyway, there's always the Europa League, which might be a bitter fit for us anyway this season if FF and VVD are sold.

 

In the league i was like that, not really the cups, that doesn't mean i don't want them winning anything, as i don't.. I just didn't check what they were doing after a cup defeat as i used to when we dropped points in the league..