The Ronny Deila Thread

Anyone still want him? He should have been let go after the Inverness game last season.

 

And Stokes got 20 and Griffiths came in and made a difference. It wasn't so reliant on the one man, Commons had an amazing season but so did others.

It will always be a fact you can't please everyone, for me though it was * brilliant. Absolutely loved the football, loved how quickly he rebuilt the team after a devastating summer. Loved how solid we were in defence and how threatening we were in attack.

 

Ronny going with Roberts, GMS and Johansen has led to a goal drought for Griffiths. Johansen's been consistently average all season. Roberts has real quality, but that doesn't mean he's keen on passing the ball to Griffiths. GMS just loses the ball far, far too easily.

So it represents a problem now that he'll maybe feel the need to change it again.

Now i know people don't want to think of the worst case scenario, when the worst case scenario might mean dropping more points along the way.

5 points at this stage of the season is a decent lead, but if Aberdeen win all their games it will be closer.

You just never know what's around the corner in football. We've only lost three games in the league, twice to Aberdeen and once to Motherwell. We've got Motherwell next and Aberdeen still to play as well as the other top teams after the split.

The 7 draws we've had are the real problem. In the last five games we've won three and drawn two.

In the cups we've played poorly. Stranraer, Morton, Raith all beaten by two or three goals. We beat Hearts by one. We went out to Ross County in the League Cup beaten 3-1.

Europe well the least said about that the better.

A win against Quarabag 1-0 followed by conceding 4 against Malmo.

3 defeats and 3 draws in the Europa Group stage.

So all this talk about playing a certain brand of football is all very well, but where are the results, where is the proof that it's working?

That Ronny somehow turned Griffiths into a goalscorer? Well someone will need to go and look at the history and pin point a moment in time when Griffiths wasn't a prolific goalscorer.

The same goes for a number of players the other way. Would you say Johansen for example played better under Neil Lennon? Or Commons for that matter.

Would Lennon be taking a punt on Richards and Cole when the second and third top goalscorers are on track to score more than 20 goals in the league?

So that must surely point to idiotic decisions by everyone from Park and his team, to Lawwell and Deila.

Instead we've Griffiths on 26, which is great, but then you're going down to Rogic who's scored 7 and Bitton who's scored 5. Ciftci, Commons and McGregor all on 4.

So to re-iterate, although Deila claims he wants to play a certain brand of football in a certain system, it hasn't led to any other players than Griffiths scoring double figues in terms of goals.

GMS with all his talent has scored 4 goals, which is a terrible return after 25 games he's played.

Dedryck Boyata is actually tied on goals scored which puts into perspective the effect Ronny really has had on developing players.

I'm in no doubt the ideas about fitness, strength and conditioning diet, will mean good things for the development side. But the first team i think you're clutching at straws to suggest things like Janko will be a top player for us, or that Boyata is a solid centre back, Ambrose deserves a new three year deal, things like that.

We get rid of Boerrigter and you think, hopefully we've learnt a lesson from that, but then you see Cole get a three year deal and no game time. How many goals has Richards scored, yet he gets the nod against someone like Commons, who if he was allowed to play the poacher, would surely score more goals than both put together.

It's a mess and now with the goals drying up for Griffiths, you have to look at the three behind not entirely programmed to get the ball to Griffiths and GMS who can't hold onto the ball for toffee.

If this is somehow progress, then i'd be worried about what failure looks like.

If he sticks with Roberts, GMS and Johansen the goals might just well continue to dry up for Griffiths. But then again goals are never far away with Griffiths as long as he gets the service. The service doesn't need the extra touches Roberts takes and right now i'm not sure whether ROnny would drop him because "he makes things happen", which you imagine is great for Roberts and somehow could potentially pose a risk if teams mark him out the game and you've got GMS offering very little other than being a total shitebag over on the left hand side, when we all know he's far more dangerous on the right.

I'd bet my mortgage on us * up the next few games, winning the league and then going after a superstar manager, when we all know Scotland produce good managers, always have and always will.

Problem is we've folk at the very top who don't share our vision and if it leads to more dropped points in the league and hands the Scottish Cup and a European place to Sevco i personally wouldn't be surprised at all. It would not surprise me if Aberdeen won the league because if we drop any more points and ROnny goes experimental it's not too much to consider the panic that would happen if we dropped another two points, or three. If we lose another game and Aberdeen win, all they need to do is beat us, win all their games and the title is theirs.

Chances of that happening are maybe not so high, but we keep letting Aberdeen back in and at some point i expect it to backfire quite spectacularly and this is what you get when you put a bottle merchant in charge.

 

A thought Strachans first season the football was brilliant. 25 wins in a row or something, with some great performances.

The football on show for Lennons first season was even better.

 

Last season our defence in the league was outstanding, I don't think you'll find many people who will complain about the partnership of Denayer and Van Dijk.

 

:smiley-laughing002: You can't be serious, we were only defeated once in the league in Lennon's last season

Regularly putting 3+ goals by teams in his final 6 months in charge. We scored 20 goals in the 5 games after the split despite the league being won long before.

Total revisionism to suggest it was boring football.

 

But we were too good for the rest of the league, winning by that margin and scudding teams is boring. This is where it's at, 0-0 draws with Dundee galore, struggling against Kilmarnock, Aberdeen being up our *. Not winning a game in Europe. This is the * business, we've achieved competition!


Who the * wants to win the league by 29 points?

 

Just checked, 16 times we scored 3 or more goals from January that season. In 21 games.

I absolutely * loved it man.

 

He not been sacked yet? Pathetic manager

 

Sorry, my mistake, 14 times.

 

Ronny talks the talk, Lennon walked the walk.

 

Aye, right oot the door tae Bolton :smiley-laughing002::smiley-laughing002::smiley-laughing002:

 

Superb

You've literally just shat all over the "we were * in his last season" argument. It was * night and day in contrast to this continual pish we are being served up.

 

So, you're saying that just because you've put more than 3 goals past a team that the football for the majority of a match can't be "boring"?

 

I said at the time it was a strange job to take, his hands were tied behind his back with a financially-hamstrung club in an ultra-competitive league.

Still doesn't diminish any of his achievements at Celtic.

 

No, it absolutely does not - but what it DOES diminish, is this silly notion that the only reason Lennon left Celtic was due to financial restraints.

He wanted a job in England so bad that he accepted an offer at a club in turmoil who hadn't two pence to rub together.

 

I'm saying it is far * better than Ronny Deilas side who have produced a handful of entertaining games all season yes.

Did I enjoy Lennons final season more than this season, without a doubt. Ronnys Celtic play some of the worst football I've witnessed bar the odd occasion where the players turn up.

I'm still waiting for this high pressing, high tempo attacking with one to kick in

 

Exactly, wasn't just financial restraints. He was all ready to take the team for another season, had a meeting with the board and left.

We done something no amount of bombs, bullets, attacks or death threats ever could, we drove Neil Lennon out the door and I have no idea how we achieved that. Saying that, I think he'd rather be at cash strapped club doing the best he can than being at a club that is actively stopping him from doing the best he can.

Think there's a major difference there.

 

What game have you watched were we have scored 3 goals and you've been bored?