The Ronny Deila Thread

Not a Celtic manager my *. Guy won a double his first season and made the knockout stages of European competition, let down by poor goalkeeping. This season Europe was obviously poor but he's on track for another double and his second time beating the Huns. We're pulling out victories against teams putting 10 men on defence and blocking every chance we have, even if they're ugly. And we have a batch of very exciting young players making their ways into the ranks. He certainly can still turn it around, and to simply give up any hope at all I don't understand.

 

Too right, other Big Mick. :smiley-laughing002:

 

I agree with this. Hard to knock back a guy who's won the league and cup double. One more chance at the CL and if he qualifies then he deserves another season. It's not highly likely but it would be some fun to see him progress.

If you took out all the bad luck Ronny has had since he's been here this would be his record:

1st Season:

Treble (dodgy decision linesman)
Last 16 Europa League Gordon making two blunders, Virgil sent off)

2nd Season:
CL Group Stages (Malmo game we were winning comforably, Score first in second leg, legit goal disallowed)
League cup (Efe red card)
Heading for another treble

He'd be a not bad manager if red cards and individual errors didn't plague him

 

Not a Celtic manager my *? Seriously? I mean for * sake are you watching us this season and actually thinking we're playing well? :smiley-laughing002:

 

Of course I don't think we're playing well, but I also see that when we take off the old guard like Izzy, Commons, Broony, Lustig, and Bitton that we have young hungry players who are making the difference when necessary like Rogic, Tierney, Roberts, and GMS on his good days, and I have no doubt the same will come with Allan, Christie, Janko, and Ajer soon enough.

 

Yeah I didn't find it cringey, just a little surprising but it looked like a good buzz. Just I know a few folk have said they did on here so that's why I mentioned it.

I agree, it would be great after every match between now and end of season, mainly cause we only do it after winning :icon_mrgreen:

 

So we've been * all season (booed at half time we're playing so badly), embarrassed in Europe and dispatched out of the League cup by Ross County, but because we have Ryan Christie, Scott Allan, Janko and because GMS has a decent 20 minutes sometimes Ronny Deila is a good Celtic manager.

I mean for * sake there's positivity then there's just nonsense. :smiley-laughing002:

These guys aren't young. By 23 you're either good enough or you need to be moved on for someone else. The fact is we have too much dross in the team that has 20 good minutes every now and again and he Celtic fans are convinced they will come good and become a 40+ games per season superstar. If Deila has any sense he'll get rid of guys like Allan, Christie and GMS and get some quality into the side.

 

Christie is only 21, we have Nesbitt, Calvin Miller, Tierney is just the first of a golden generation and they will benefit to no end by having Ronny as the manager.

 

Sure there have been negatives this season and I'm not denying that, but I can also see lots of potential going ahead. And those negatives were caused pretty much exclusively by the old guard which is being phased out (Izzy in Europe vs Ajax, Ambrose in Europe vs Fenerbahce, Ambrose vs Ross County in the semi...).

Do you honestly think we should boot Allan and Christie before they've even played a full match for us, or are you just being negative for the sake of being negative? Christie especially who's supported us since he was a lad and I'm sure is dying to make himself in a Celtic jersey. And what kind of players do you expect us to sign with our budget aside from potential? 23 and your career is decided, * me. Tell that to Jamie Vardy or Lubo.

 

Fair enough, let's give him a year or 2 to develop in the first team and see how he gets on.

Behind Armstrong, Allan, GMS, Forrest, Bitton, Roberts, Brown, Rogic, Commons, McGregor and Johansen and Ajer.

Not to mention whoever else we sign this summer of course because the team we have has shown not to be good enough this season.

Christie is 21, but my point remains.

 

23 and a decision needs to be made as to whether you're good enough. Are you saying we should keep every fringe player we have just in case they maybe might be a Lubo or a Vardy?

Fair enough, at 21 lets keep Christie, but what's the point if there's 10 guys in front of him to get into the team? Can't you see the point that a guy like Alla or Christie, if he's good enough, needs to be playing regular first team football? Do you think Vardy went 5 seasons in a bench?

Here's what I'm saying. Deila needs to sit and look at the enormous list of players: Allan, Armstrong, GMS, McGregor, Rogic, Johansen, Bitton, Brown, Ajer, Christie and Forrest

And decide which are going to represent this club in the UCL Group stage next season (since that is our goal. Period) and which are going to be on the fringes of the first team being developed. Personally I don't see enough quality there which means a decision needs to be made because that's already too many players.

 

Hopefully after todays results the title is in the bag !! But if theres any of our support honestly thinks this guy is still the future then i seriously give in .We were 90secs away from being in big trouble , and 1 wonder strike shouldnt fool anybody !! He should be sacked asap and give the new guy a chance before next season , its harsh but it makes sense seen as a new manager couldnt possibly have the team playing worse

 

I agree that we have too many in that position but I also think they won't be on huge wages so it's something that doesn't worry me as much as it probably should

 

Money aside, how are we meant to develop a strong first team if we're giving every player 10-15 games a season? How are we meant to develop players if we can't even give them 5 starts a season in their favoured position?

It's like:

Christie could be the next big thing but we'll never find out because we're trying to find out if Allan is the next big thing but we'll never find out because we're try to find out if Rogic is the next big thing but we'll never find out because we need to play Commons there so we can actually win the match because none of the above are consistently good enough!

And breathe.

 

Of course we shouldn't keep every fringe player but we have seen the potential with Allan - why do you think so many on here call for him to be on the team sheet every week? If they have the potential they are worth keeping on no matter their age. Certainly there are some whose potential is wearing out as well and can welcomely be punted. Of those you listed Forrest can welcomely leave, Johansen hasn't made an impact this year, Armstrong has been *. Trimming can certainly be done and must be done, but there is definitely quality there IMO. Perhaps that's where we differ most - I'm excited by our young future midfield.

I agree in that I just really wish Ronny would drop out the older players even sooner and play all these youngsters for experience, but he took his time with Tierney too and that worked out well enough. See what happens the rest of the season before writing him off. I think he deserves one more shot at Europe with an actual team he's built. What I don't get are people saying "even if he wins every game to the end of the year he should still go in the summer." There's no point giving up now. Evaluate him when the season is over.

 

As much as I love him, if anything today proved Commons should be dropped.

 

Okay, it sounds like your essentially saying what I was saying.. So you're Ronny Deila this summer and you need to make a big impact in Europe. You've got your current squad - who do you keep?

You're punting: Johansen? Brown?, Armstrong, Commons

Leaving you with Allan, Henderson, Bitton, McGregor, GMS, Rogic, Roberts, Christie, Ajer.. That's the team you've built to take on Europe and the Huns.

Well, if it works then fair play to him, that's fantastic. Bit risky if you ask me.

If it was me, I'd bring one or 2 quality players in and pick the cream of the young crop that I think can really make an impact at the club and focus my efforts developing them. Sadly I don't think that midfield will be good enough next season and we'll bring in some better players and it will just mean all those guys will get a limited amount of game time split between them, with none of them reaching their potential.

Exactly like what happened this season to Allan.

 

I'm not quite booting all the old players immediately but I think they should gradually be phased out. And if the young team ends up failing, then I will agree that Ronny's time is up. I see it that he has the tools to make a great young side and if he fails, then it's not meant to be. But right now, I haven't seen enough to claim with certainty that it won't work.

 

What have you seen to say it will work?

 

I can't say it will work, I'm saying I think it can work and should be tested before being scrapped. If the test fails, Ronny is done.