The Ronny Deila Thread

I think people are overreacting to one bad performance, obviously because that bad performance had major consequences on our season so that's fair enough.

I still think we are a better team than Malmo are under Deila. At home we absolutely blitzed them and at the very least should have been 3-1 up going into the second leg which I think would have changed our entire outlook on the second leg. Really the tie should have been dead and buried after the first half of the first leg, we were so superior to them it was unreal.

Then we conceded some horrendous goals which is where the criticism has to come in. All four goals were easily preventable. Not going to go into detail on the goals we conceded as we've all seen them but I think it can be argued that Ronny should have had us set up better to defend all four. To concede 3 goals from corners against the same team in 2 games is embarrassing. Ronny talked about the little details deciding ties like this and yet we've been put out of the champions league by a team that didn't carve us open for any of their four goals, it's absolutely sickening because I'm convinced we are a better team than them, even if our performance last night didn't show it.

 

I think an almost 80% approval rating after such a poor performance in what was our biggest match of this season(barring we make the EL semi final) is not an overreaction.

 

Could of easily been 4-0 last night though if it wasn't for Gordon making some cracking saves, they still carved us open a good few times last night since the midfield went missing and the defence weren't at it.

 

I was talking to some guys in the pub last night, and we couldn't understand why Deila is afforded more protection from a large section of fans than previous managers.

He has done nothing spectacular at all, and the team are hardly world beaters, but people talk about systems and style that I just can't see. As was proven at the weekend he can pretty much chuck any team out from his squad and get a result. I genuinely think 90% of fans could do as well with regards to getting the results he gets.

When he came in he dropped Commons on the back of player of the season. It was baffling, and when he eventually gave in to fan pressure he is heralded as a genius. This season when he blatantly should have started Griffiths he starts that numpty Ciftci. Again he had to give in. The guy is clueless.

Last night he says that the team were scared, well who's job is it to prepare them for the match? There is no fire on that team, and that is his responsibility. This thread started with quotes of previous managers when they took over.... I think we need a bit of that thunder back.

 

And conversely WGS got * pelters for not being CELTIC MINDED and being poor in the media. I mean ffs......when did we ever give a * what the fourth estate think of us. We know whose * side the majority of them are on!

Yet Lennon was a 'rebel too just like me and you' and that carries a long way with our support.....like it or not!

 

Exactly!

3 out of four titles, 3 cups and last 16 of the Champs League twice, and WGS was pelted by the same people now praising Deila's "system". Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I just can't see what it is that Deila has.

 

This is where we fundamentally disagree, people are talking like it's easy to prepare players for a match like this, but it isn't. Nothing to do with motivation getting them up for it or reminding them off its importance (a game this size, that takes care of itself!), and everything to do with mental preparation.

I'm not going to stand here and tell you I know how to prepare a football team, because I don't; I do know from what I read back in the 90's (such as Sven Goran Erikson's book) and from a few things I noticed in interviews with people like O'Neill that even back then this was of vital importance for top managers.

I also feel fairly confident that it is entirely possible to prepare a team mentally for a qualifier in Malmo and that our management team's attempts to do this failed given that I don't believe for one second that 9 separate players out of 11 starters individually let us down with their attitude.

So you see I'm not basing my argument on any daft claims to know how Deila prepared them nor even claiming to know how he should have done; I do expect the Celtic manager to have that kind of knowledge, though

And that's before we even get to how Hareide outthought him tactically on the pitch.

 

For me Diela has a long long way to go. This really was his first real test to see how far he'd progressed with his ideas and making our team into a real force outside the SPFL.

When he admited fear in the side that spoke volumes, even using that kind of phrase, to me, shows a weakness somewhere in there.

I saw nothing that was an improvement on Legia or Maribor, the same weak tactics and performance.

Hate to say it (again) but the clock is ticking now. Perhaps the Europa league is a silver lining here for us all including Ronny. I want him badly to succeed however I there are large gaps in tactical decisions and some signings.

 

In that video he says that mental stress is far more damaging that physical stress when it comes to player performances.

That's the bit that popped into my head after the match last night.

 

I think you're spot on here; it not unreasonable of us to expect good mental preparation. For me, that is more important than tactics because if you you're not mentally prepared then you can't implement the tactics.

 

OK, mate.

 

Dude, I don't get how people can think that 9 separate players out of 11, with completely different personalities and experience levels, all individually let us down badly with their attitudes on the same night.

One or two and you could claim they were bottlers, 3 or 4 is possible albeit unlucky; but not 9. 9 has to have a cause. Like you, I'm inclined to look for that cause in our preparation.

 

I just hope for Ronnys sake this is rock-bottom and it's onwards and upwards from now. Minimum requirement is a double. Europa League i couldn't give a * about at the mo prob because based on that fiasco i can''t see us doing anything. When i heard him speak l took it as he was blaming himself because everything he mentioned regarding the players was HIS JOB and we failed badly!
I don't what the * happened...i just wonder if he's too pally with some of them and there is a lack of respect there....young, foreign manager who no * had heard of. One thing for sure is that under O'Neill and Strachan they knew who the * boss was. Players ran through * walls for these 2 guys.......especially O'Neill. Probably what * Sutton off as much last night.
I wouldn't sack him but there's got to be an improvement and quickly. I mean how long do you give a work in progress.

 

Said last night i'm still for keeping him as i believe it would be counter-productive to get rid just now but that's hardly a vote of confidence. The jury's still out!!

 

I said people are overreacting, not the majority of people. If it was 5% of people that wanted Deila to go now they would still be overreacting.

 

I think there's an awful lot that hay Ronny gets spectacularly right. Look at Griffiths in the home game against Malmo, I didn't think he was capable of that (not the goals, I knew he could do that, I mean his general play). I think when it comes to developing players, he walks the walk. His attitude towards the cups is refreshing, his relationship with the fans, his vision for how we should play, his emphasis on youth... I still buy into all of that, I certainly don't want to see him go.

I just think Ronny needs to take a leaf out of his own book and address a deficiency in his skill set. I know Ronny has forgotten more about preparing a team than I'll ever know, of course I do; but his preparations for this one did not work and it really isn't the first time. The Celtic manager needs to do better.