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Many of the Russian fans for Celtic! :)

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by malhaz_rus, Aug 17, 2007.

Discuss Many of the Russian fans for Celtic! :) in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. GuitarBhoy

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    I would as long as they dont get to the final.
    Would help the coefficient so we dont need to play mickey mouse teams
     
  2. littlekennie

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    so would i and wen yooz go to the uefa cup and get aberdeen ill be laffin wen yooz get beat off them too
     
  3. littlekennie

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    nae * said nakamura was from scotland were the * did that come from coz no1 said that and the best scottish player in the league is scott brown who happens to play for us and we payed more money for him than nakamura so get it round you infact i didnt see any 9 million pound goal keepers in your league we had craig gordon
     
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    http://bebo.com/watch/4660324334


    look at this video and just see the class that nakamura has nothin in the russian league is better than him if you do not agrre send a link with a russian league player that is better i doubt it though
     
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    <o:p></o:p><st1:City><st1:place>Aberdeen</st1:place></st1:City>? Nae (I love the Scottish pronunciation:84:), it’s not the 1983-85 <st1:City><st1:place>Aberdeen</st1:place></st1:City>, so nothing to worry about. :86:<o:p></o:p>
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    I never said that you said that Nakamura was from <st1:country-region><st1:place>Scotland</st1:place></st1:country-region>. Where did you get that from? So, if Scott Brown was more expensive than Nakamura would that mean that the former player was better at the time of the purchase? Of course not. In fact, you shouldn’t judge the player’s abilities by a transfer fee. I’ll give you an example. FC. Zenit bought a Ukrainian defender Anatoliy Tymoschuk from Shahtar Donetsk for $20 million. In turn, Manchester United paid Spartak for Nemanja Vidić only £7.2 (about $11 mil). Does that mean that Tymoschuk is a better defender? I hope that I won’t even need to answer this one for you.



    So if you think that Craig Gordon is better than Igor Akinfeev than I am not even sure that you are interested in football in general. With all due respect to Gordon, Akinfeev is, arguably, more talented (and 3 years younger), and Arsenal (not some kind of unheralded <st1:place>Sunderland</st1:place>) would have probably bought him this summer had he not got injured. He’ll most likely play for a top European club in 1-2 years.
     
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    As far as pure offensive skills (and entertainment value), the Russian league doesn't have anyone like Nakamura. But I would still give an honorable mention to Daniel Carvalho who is very skillful.

    And by the way, do you also have a video of the Nakamura's defensive merits?......LOL, just kidding. We both know the well-known Nakamura's weaknesses. I think that Nakamura has found a perfect league (good pace, great quality grass fields, but not overly competitive) to display his superb skills. I think that he would struggle in the Serie A and the Premier League against tougher defenses. He would do well in Spain or Portugal. I think that Spain will be his next stop unless Celtic signs him for a lifetime contract.
     
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    by the way tymoschuk is a midfeider that was his best position for shakter and urkrain so shows that you have no interest in football and what you mean about competiveness the scottish league has to be the most physical out there players who do well in the epl have struggled here like juninho the one that played for middlesborough henri camara just to name a few and why wud naka have defensive merits he is a play maker and a attacking midfeider and he played in italy before and as you see in the video he didnt actually struggle he didnt play for a big team though
     
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    but its great to see that you agrre that there is no one near as gd as nakamura
     
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    lugovoi i agree that bistrov is a great player and probably one for the future but he aint better than naka and spartakmoskva i never said brown was better than nakamura i sed he was the best scottish player in the league
     
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    Yes, you are right, he is listed as a midfielder, but his functions are almost entirely defensive. He pretty much almost plays as a 5th defender in a 4-4-2 (especially when he plays for Ukraine). Do you remember Didier Deschamps (that defensive beast who was listed as a midfielder as well)? Well, Tymoschuk is playing a similar defensive role for his club: he is winning balls for his attacking players. So basically, Vidić and Tymoshchuk play mainly defensive roles for their respective teams.


    I wouldn't call a league competitive where only 2 clubs compete for the championship. There's a huge gap between the top 2 clubs and the rest of the teams. It's kind of funny that you mentioned Aberdeen in your previous post, but Aberdeen was the last team to win a Scottish championship in 1984/85 before the Celtic/Rangers hegemony has started.

    Nakamura had a great first season in Italy, but in the last 2 seasons, Nakamura scored only 4 goals and had only 5 assists in 49 games. It's not much for a talented attacking midfielder despite the fact that he played for an average team. And by the way since Naka does't have a lot of defensive merits ("since he is a playmaker" as you say), he won't be playing for a top Italian or English club where even superstars have to do the dirty work.
     
  13. SpartakMoskva

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    Hey, I have to give the guy credit where it's due. Nakamura's an awesome player. No one can deny that.

    P.S. I didn't hear you acknowledge that Akinfeev was more talented than Gordon though. Is it too much pride to swallow? :84:
     
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    Where is there a league where more than 2 teams compete for the title.
    Spain this past year excluded
     
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    I didnt hear Buffon, Wenger, SAF and Domenech among others praise Akinfeev.
    But Gordon has been praised by every NT manager/player that Scotland has played and will def move to a top club soon and be #1.
     
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    I'll not think for a long time. My answer is Russia!..
    I can name at least 4 clubs in Russia which could be called pretenders for the title during last 3 seasons. That's why we see Spartak, cska and lokomotiv playing in the Champ's League one after another. Next season I think you'll get acquainted with zenit from st.petersburg in the CL.
    We can't say it about Aberdeen for example.
    So that's why there are discussions about Celtic's future playing in the English PL. Yuo want to have worth rivals.
     
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    Ok, but in all the big leagues it's nearly always a battle between 2 clubs for the title.

    Except Germany last year, and maybe Spain.
     
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    I do not agree again. Let's take England for example... Liverpool, Chelsea, MU, Arsenal... Their chances before season are always estimated as equal. They are considered to be top clubs not only in England but in whole Europe... The same is about Italy where there are Inter, Milan, Roma, Lazio and Juve' returned to Seria A again.
    Scottish PL has only Celtic and Rangers in fact...
     
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    I wish I had thought of a totally random MSDOS name like *.txt

    More power to you ya Russian dobber
     
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    You obviously don't know much about the premiership. Last year it was between Man U and Chelsea from the very start. In Italy it was worse, only Inter were in it from the beginning!