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Celtic F.C moneymakers 2012

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by scomur1888, Nov 8, 2012.

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  1. scomur1888

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    Glory in my opinion is more important than financies but it's hard to ignore how much this seasons performances will stable us for many years to come!

    Quick breakdown


    :Celtic pick up £17,192,00 to be in champions league group stages (including play-off)
    :So far with 2 wins and 1 draw we bank 2,500,000 euro around 2million,with Possibily more to follow.
    :Gate money- 55000 x £30 x 3 = £4,950,000
    :qualifying for last 16 (not guarenteed of course)brings a lump some of 3,000,000 euro from UEFA,not including gate money,which again would generate. £1,650,000.

    All in all we should make around 28million minumum(if we qualify) from this years competition in my opinion.

    It's frightening amounts of money and with our most talented players value increasing by the minute it's hard to think what the club will/can do with this money??

    Would be nice for the current players to be reward and also our legend of a manager!We could be rewarded also with cheaper match tickets although I may get stick for that opinion although it's a way of selling more tickets.

    I know we recently recorded losses of 7mil priory to the sake of Ki of around 6mil so it's go to be very pleasing come next Augusts financial report.

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. Mr. Fawlty

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    The players don't need to be rewarded in a financial sense, that's not what tonight was about. In forty years they aren't going to be telling their grandchildren about the night they earned a big bonus!

    The money is an afterthought, a pleasant one of course, but a mere footnote.

    In saying that though...

    Tony Watt. Sixty year contract extension with a spot on the board after retirement. You know it makes sense!
     
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  3. Scotzbhoy

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    We're very fortunate at the moment to be in a position where we don't need to add quality to the squad, we've got a brilliant group of players and competition for every position. However, given how unlucky we are with injuries it can't hurt to add a bit more. Still, given our track record we can source quality for very little money. The rest should be spent on boosting attendances, and lowering ticket prices would be an excellent start.
     
  4. aliceinsound

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    Rebuild the old stand, it may look * during spl games being literally half empty, but imagine the atmosphere with another 10,000 plus celtic fans tonight :celt_2:

    but we should just continue with what we are doing, I have a feeling they will have a zombie fund, in preparation for a potential title challenge in a few years, I imagine a few million will be kept for that.
     
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  5. Sean Daleer Ten Thirty Gold Member

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    A what? A zombie fund? Are you serious?
     
  6. sdickson

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    we must try and get spl prices down to boost our attendences
     
  7. Seosamh Máirtín

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    These results will help bring in more money from other areas, such as sponsorship and the media, as well.
     
  8. pod

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    The kind of figures that we are making will mean we dont need a zombie fund. The only way the dead could compete with us was by cheating their finances so if the new club do ever get to the top flight and live within their means, they will have little chance of competing with us anyway.

    Also if we do win the league then we will go into the champions path again and due to our coefficient (which has been significantly boosted this season:celt_2:) we should be among the top seeds. Even if we qualify once from the remaining seasons (though I hope its every season) it will push us even further away from the dreams of newco. Hopefully, they will bankrupt themselves again chasing Lenny's lions.:shamrock:
     
  9. MartinR

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    i think home games against teams like st morren dundee ict they should be selling tickets at around £17-£20 per * ticket and £5-£10 for kids would fill the stadium more and keep ticket prices the way there are for c.l matches
     
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    pay the tax bill....then continue as normal...THE GRAND OLD CELTIC WAY!!!
     
  11. Adam426

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    We're already closing in on £30m from the CL this season if you include ticket sales. Plus £6m from Ki and a few other things it will probably be £40m+ by the end of the season. Although we've got 3 qualifiers next seasons its actually good because there's only 4 Scottish teams so that should be an extra 2 co-efficient points (plus an extra sold out game) and it only gets divided by 4 rather than 5. If we qualify for the next 5 seasons (and we should, easily)- not only will Scotland's co-efficient be VERY high - we'll also get at least £150m from the CL during that period. If you include player sales over that time then it will probably be over £200m. Obviously if we decide to start buying more expensive players that will come down a bit. But still its not to be sniffed at.
     
  12. scomur1888

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    Totally agree with you Martin,more people in the stadium will generate more money in other ways,merchandising,food etc!

    This club is only going to get even bigger globally.
     
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    I'm not sure if thats a definate yet? With our coefficient points this season we may avoid it.
     
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    nah it's definite, these points don't count till like next season or the one after that

    unless we win the CL this year that is :celt_2:
     
  15. Adam426

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    No, unfortunately this seasons co-efficient doesn't affect next season. It only affects the season after and obviously the following four seasons. As I said though, the last couple of seasons haven't been great but we've (Scotland) already got 2.9 points this season which is the 2nd most in the last 5 years (the most was 3.6 in 10-11) but we should beat that (5 bonus points from getting to the last 16 plus maybe 1-3 from win bonuses = 1.2-1.5 more points).

    The thing is though without another team helping us the best Scotland can be in 5-6 years is about 12th (Currently 26th but should be 23rd by the end of the season). That would give us one team in the group stages automatically but if we want to crack the top 10 we need another team contributing. Even still - if you consider that if Celtic do at least this well for the next 5 years we could easily be one of the top 15 countries in Europe again, and Hugh Keevins said at the start of the season that a Scottish club might never again qualify for the Champions League group stage. Well, in conclusion he's an idiot.
     
  16. Daver

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    This is one of the most optimistic posts I have ever read on this site. I applaud the enthusiasm, but if we have taken in over 200 million in the next 5 years as per route referred to above, I shall drink my own *.

    Let's not get ahead of ourselves, is my point.
     
  17. Adam426

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    IF we qualify for the CL every season then its just about guaranteed to be over £150m (We've already made £28m from it this year). If we choose to sell a couple of our best players over the next 5 years then I would presume it would get over £200m. The thing is if we do sell someone like Wanyama for £20m, we can't really replace him and we don't really need the money. I'd prefer it if we kept as much of the current squad together as possible but if bigger teams come in with ridiculous offers then we'll have to sell. Not to mention a few will be in their 30s by then so it could be good to cash in. But we'd only get £50m from transfers if we sold several of our prized players.

    The thing is £50m from transfers isn't that much over 5 seasons. In Lennon's 2.5 seasons so far we've already sold £25m worth of players. If I were you Daver, I'd be moderately worried. As if we are both still on this forum in 5 years I will be expecting to see a lovely video of you, having a nice drink. :icon_mrgreen:
     
  18. Daver

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    I shall prepare the * cup for this dream scenario!

    Just can't see us qualifying year on year to get CL football, purely because of the fact simple things exist such as bad luck / * performance / hideously unlucky draws against teams who are frankly good enough to be in CL in the first place.

    The reaction of the hierarchy when we qualified THIS year (against relative minnows) told its own story - getting through these qualifiers is a complete * of a business. Banking on it with any kind of supposed certainty has inextricable links to doom and despair, i am afraid.....
     
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    With the way the seeding system works we cannot be drawn against any of the big boys in the qualifiers. Which is why we must not rest on our laurels and make sure we keep, or add, quality in or to the team.
     
  20. Daver

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    Big boys, no, but this year we avoided Basel and Limassol as potential opponents when we for once got a decent draw.

    There are always teams of very good quality we can face in the qualifiers, which is why any pre-conceived notions of guaranteed qualification to CL is fanciful at best. Again, I say this mate - look at the reaction within Celtic when we qualified to see how difficult it actually is to qualify. And that was not against the worst teams we could have faced either.