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  1. ynwa1987

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    I wouldn't call them vultures haha.

    They've got families to feed and a pretty short career make as much money as you can before your get out.
     
  2. ynwa1987

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    At one point Gomi was the was one of the best lightweights in the world in any people's eyes.

    Sakuraba was one of the best fighters as well.

    Records don't always tell the full story.
     
  3. Jinky1967

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    Aye. From what I have seen of Jones the guy has it all. Fight at range? He's better. Fight close up...the guy has some moves in his locker. He's top class. Is he a black belt in jujitsu?
     
  4. Slaw

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    He's actually a white belt mate believe it or not. Not that that actually means much. He's still extremely dangerous on the ground.
     
  5. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

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    I'm not disagreeing with either of you, I just feel for the lightweight contenders and Edgar. My point is they deserve a shot.
     
  6. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    Nate Diaz and Oliviera are calling out McGregor for 1 reason, money. They are circling vultures.

    DosAnjos has every right to call him out as has Frankie Edgar and Aldo, guys at the top of the pile where McGregor is.

    I'm aware of that but where does Gomi rank in the all time list? Nowhere.

    What would be wrong with getting Edgar to fight Aldo in April? There's a case for both so the logical thing would be either Aldo redeems himself against Edgar or Edgar avenges his loss to the former champion before he gets his shot at the belt. Makes perfect sense to me.

    The Lightweight division is a bit easier, with Cerrone now out the picture the top 2 contenders are Pettis and Khabib; one DosAnjos has just beat convincingly and the other hasn't fought for 2 years.
     
  7. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

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    I'd like to see Aldo Edgar actually. Edgar had earned a title shot, but a win against Aldo would mean the UFC can't ignore him.

    Khabib is undefeated and beat Dos Anjos, not that long ago in MMA terms. Still it's the same problem I have with Cruz and Jones getting title shots on their return, not sure he can walk straight into one. But if Cruz and Jones can, so should he.
     
  8. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    There's an argument for both so fight it out!

    Khabib beat RDA in his last fight, RDA is now 6 fights further on and a completely different fighter and proposition. In time terms it wasn't long ago, in MMA terms it was an age!
     
  9. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

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    In RDA terms it's an age. He's transformed faster than any fighter I've seen. It actually hurt to watch him destroy one of my favourite fighters so quickly.
     
  10. ynwa1987

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    Mcgregor was calling out Aldo when he was lower in the rankings than Diaz and Oliviera. Using your very cynical logic that would make Mcgregor a vulture too.

    I would use the word vulture to describe corrupt politicians or conman not guys who are risking life and limb to feed their families for our entertainment, they deserve more respect than that.
     
  11. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    Same boat.

    You've completely missed my point.

    McGregor called out the Champion an age ago so he could be top of the pile, not to make a quick buck off his name.

    Where was Diaz and Oliviera when McGregor first fought in the UFC or even after that fight? They want to capitilise off of his rising star in monetary terms. They are vultures - Olivieira in particular wants to fight the featherweight champion when the * can't even make Championship weight for a prelim fight.
     
  12. ynwa1987

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    In case you hadn't noticed Mcgregor is massively motivated by money ...... but whats wrong with wanting to make a quick buck in an industry where fighters are already criminally underpaid?

    These guys have families to feed in an already very short career, a point iv made that you keep ignoring.
     
  13. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    And you keep ignoring the fact Diaz and Oliviera have zero competitive leverage for a pop at the Title. Diaz ranked 15 pre-weekend and Oliviera in the prelims.

    I need money to feed my family, if I called out McGregor I'd be a leeching vulture as well. You seem to be taking it personally for the pair of them :56:

    Trying to ride a wave they didn't create, call it what you want but they are attempting to hop on the bandwagon for dollars.
     
  14. ynwa1987

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    I never said they should get title shots, Diaz certainly not. But they both have good claims to fight Mcgregor.

    I havent taken it personally but its just such a bizare way to describe the situation. These guys are elite fighters who have put years into their craft, vultures is the last word that springs to mind.

    Opportunistic or ambitious would be the words I would use.

    If it were up to me I would make the Diaz Mcgregor fight next as a tune up fight before defending against Frankie Edgar .

    Id let Ferguson fight RDA and then let Mcgregor fight the winner of those two.

    And in fact if Edgar won id let him fight for the lightweight title if he wanted to.

    By no means is that the fairest outcome Frankie deserves the next shot but these are just fights id like to see as a fan.
     
  15. TimFloyd Gold Member

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    Bisbing vs Silva in London Feb 27, just retire :smiley-laughing002:
     
  16. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

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    I was looking forward to Mousasi pumping Bisping. Silva is a strange one! Good though.
     
  17. mygirlmaria

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    Which one? Or both.

    I agree about Bisping retiring, but although id like AS to retire, i do feel he hasnt really taken a beating yet, and can understand his reluctance to let go.
     
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    You know fine well that competitive leverage matters * all when it comes to the UFC.

    Leaving aside the fact that a Diaz/Oliveira vs McGregor fight wouldn't even be for the title, the truth is that the UFC will put together the fight that will generate money.

    Oliveira isn't even in the running, but I wouldn't be surprised if the UFC went with the idea of a Diaz vs McGregor fight to let Conor test the waters at 155lbs before he's flung in their with the champion.

    In fact, a fight with Diaz could be more financially lucrative than a fight with RDA in my opinion.
     
  19. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    I guarantee you that doesn't happen.
     
  20. Slaw

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    Diaz McGregor will not happen any time soon