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Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by TheValeDale, Jun 29, 2012.

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  1. Liam Scales

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    How many unprecedented events have happened in the last year?... however it isn't unprecedented, we do give a tiny share of our gate reciepts to the rest of the SPL and have agreed to half it in Cup Competitions.

    The so called 'Gang of Ten' can drive this propasol through, we can't vetoe it. It would effectively be stealing off of Celtic fans.

    Most of it has came from Paul67 at CQN who has proven to be spot on about 75% of the time when it's regarding Celtic matters, not the Old Media.
     
  2. idlewildered

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    I think sides will gain fans after this. It's the first time that all fans of Scottish football have been on the same page and I think knowing that their club will lose money post Rangers will drive many back to the grounds.

    But I'm an optimist!
     
  3. idlewildered

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    I don't buy it. Won't happen. There would be legal challenges for years.
     
  4. Liam Scales

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    Legal challenges wouldn't succed. To play in the league we need to agree to the leagues rules, the rest of the clubs agreeing sets a precedent.

    It would be in a legal sense, accept the rules of the competition you are playing in or don't play in it.
     
  5. idlewildered

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    It's a very different kettle of fish when it comes to finances. A legal challenge to protect the money made by Celtic from going to other clubs would be absolutely possible.
     
  6. Liam Scales

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    It would be possible yes, but it would ultimately useless. We are free to ply our trade elsewhere if we don't like the competition rules.

    Even then if we escalate this to the courts Scottish Football could be banned from Europe, FIFA would take a dim view of it happening twice in as many years.
     
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    This is a moronic thread.

    This is a decision for the SFL if Rangers go to the 1st or the third so why boycott SPL games?

    Numpty.
     
  8. idlewildered

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    no, we're not. we're stick in this league and don't have the option if going anywhere else.

    By splitting the gate receipts they would be restricting our ability to trade. Something they have no scope to do. It just won't happen.
     
  9. Liam Scales

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    And how exactly are we stuck in this league? There are multiple other leagues in Scotland that we could be a part of and that's the way it would be legally looked at. Highland League etc.

    Football itself restricts our ability to trade, FIfA restricts our ability to trade or else we would be plying our trade in the Premiership just now or La liga... Or somewhere better than Scotland.

    You can't legally challenge FIFA's laws and expect no retribution from FIFA itself. Look at FC Sion... Ability to trade was restricted, who won in the end? FIFA.
     
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    Sion isn't even remotely applicable here. They were under a trasfer embargo but signings players.

    We're talking about Celtic's ability to earn money being restricted by other clubs. They are two entirely different scenarios.

    What UEFA and FIFA do best is look after their own interests, which means the larger clubs remain at the forefront of world football, or at least the champions league in UEFA's case.

    Split gates for all games would set a precedent. There's no way UEFA would be comfortable with that.
     
  11. Liam Scales

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    There is already a precedent though and it is cery much allowed. You were saying it restricting trade, Sion's trade was restricted. Very much applicable.

    By saying "they can't" over and over doesn't make it true.
     
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    That means-, point deductions, transfer embargos, spilt gate receipts and tainted titles to be stripped.
     
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    They can't * it! :icon_mrgreen:

    Seriously though, this is needless worry in my opinion.

    The "gang of ten" all have varying supports. The Edinburgh clubs for example have far greater supports than Kilmarnock for example.

    It's not just us that would vote against split gates. Plenty of others have money to lose, possibly even more than they would gain with half of our gates. They're going to be aware as well that fans would be resistant to the idea, that our support would drop off to a certain extent.

    There's too many variables for it to work out well for them.
     
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    I will not boycott away games because the team need our support on the road. It's that simple. It looks a stick on that the huns will not be forced down to the Division 3, which is outrageous because they are getting special treatment from their old friends.

    It's not just Celtic supporters that will be angry that Rangers are getting this special treatment, in fact, we were all talking about it at work today and the two Dundee United supporters and the Aberdeen supporter seemed just as unhappy as us that this bullshit is taking place.

    It should be up to the clubs to get their anger across but I think a lot of them will let them going to Division 1 slide. Which means it'll be down to the supporters to get that message across but I don't know how exactly. Not boycotting anyway, that's for sure.

    Despite the fact they are receiving some sort of punishment, getting pushed down one division, losing their best players and all the rest of it - still doesn't take away the fact that they are being wrongly thrown a life-line. As supporters of clubs in the SPL, we just can't have it.

    If they do indeed end up in Division 3, then there would be no problem.
     
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  15. Rosleabhoy

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    I won't be boycotting
     
  16. TheBatPencil

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    If you're bored with Celtic, you can go watch Rangers any time you want. Ticket prices won't be very high and there's going to be plenty of empty seats.
     
  17. Clint Eastwood The Good Bad and Ugly of TC

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    I think we should boycott for the complete opposite reason that the original poster suggested.....

    Because they do not deserve to be PROMOTED (NOT relegated like some are suggesting) to the 1st division, they should be begging just to get into Division 3.

    I do not see how people (a small minority granted) here want to see Newco in the SPL next season... it doesn't make any sense.

    3rd division maximum, any higher division and it is a complete farce.
     
  18. TheValeDale

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    My original post is talking about the way the spl are trying to fast track rangers back into the spl ... This is unacceptable!!!!!!

    I am talking about not going to away games as these clubs are wanting rangers to goto first division and be fast tracked into spl also....

    This is also inacceptable
     
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    Why would a Celtic fan want to go watch Rangers?? Glen is just giving his opinion, an opinion i agree with him on. Time will tell if he is right or not .
     
  20. Sean Daleer Ten Thirty Gold Member

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    You've got laugh at folk saying we will get bored without the huns.

    Did we get bored when Martin was here and we were winning the league by 20+ points?

    Nope.

    I go to watch Celtic to watch Celtic, not because we are in a tight title race that goes down to wire, I appreciate it's not the same for everyone these days but there you go.

    I would watch us play chess if I had to.
     
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