why is there an obsession with rangers going bust instead of celtic going forward

I seriously can’t comprehend that some celtic supporters would not renew a season ticket of rangers are allowed back into the spl. How is that going to assist the coach and players in trying to develop a decent European side . Surely thats exactly what rangers would enjoy watching - a celtic support turning away from the club when this is our time to dominate and prosper.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>
Some celtic supporters are unhealthily obsessed with rangers and not focusing on the side trying to get back into the CL. I really do not care what happens to rangers as no matter what sanctions or lack of them take place they will be financially stricken for years to come and the world of football is now aware of the shambles of a club they are, ideologically, morally and operationally. So far this seasons the have been deducted 10 points, lost European qualification had to sell their best player, for what looks like a knock down price and this is only the beginning. I hope we all renew our tickets and the attendances do not wain in what should be a period of dominance and prosperity.<o></o>

 

so you could invest in what many would see as a corrupt board. if this board vote rangers back into the spl then they are just as bad as the kelly board and our fans should put sporting integrity ahead of £ even if the board can't

 

You have to understand it's not people turning their back on Celtic, but on the SPL and the authorities for keeping cheats in business.

 

A corrupt board for acting in the best interest of shareholders lol . No thanks id rather a financially stricken rangers team with sanctions. Some people are clueless , like it our not sky money and the extra gate money from rangers v celtic games could be the difference of 4 - 5 top players salaries which we need to get into the champions league.

 

Reveling is great but obessesing isnt im a celtic fan, i want whats best for the club .

 

You cant compare the 2 boards. Absolute shocking to even put the 2 boards in the same breath even if they did allow a newco to get into the spl . The only reason they would do it is if they thought it was in the best interests of Celtic . How can you possibly put them in the same breath as the old board who never done anything in the best interests of Celtic. Shocking statement

 

100% spot on. Iv already stated i think some fans hatred of Rangers seems to outweigh their love for Celtic.

 

I think your missing the boat here.

Celtic fans arent going to not go, we(im not I renewed about 2 month ago ) are THREATENING not to, to force the huns into recieveing the correct punishment

 

at the end of the day this topic will split fans forever every body has already said their positions a hundred times over on this forum and no amount of debate is going to change either opinion

 

I think you misunderstand some of your fellow tims. People aren't renewing straight away to apply some pressure on the board, should a vote on a newco Rangers come to fruition.

For many people across Scotland, the thought that a newco could circumvent the rule book, simply for financial reasons, would be an intolerable injustice. Many people would turn their backs on Scottish football completely, because there would be no integrity left in the institutions that govern our sport.

Celtic have to be at the forefront of a "No" vote, should this come to pass, but, TBF, I don't think it will. Rangers will either liquidate completely (most likely), or exit through a CVA.

 

Can i ask you a question. If allowing Rangers back into the spl (with sanctions for the next few seasons ) allowed us to bring in the extra players we needed to qualify for the champions league. Would you rather have Rangers down to the 3rd division and us not sign these players there for not making the champions league just to make sure Rangers got the punishment they deserve. I know its a hypothetical question but what scenario would you choose out of the 2???

 

Huns 3rd Division every time.

A precedent MUST be set. No Newco's in the SPL. We dont want a situation were every SPL Club runs up debt, Newco's and comes back debt free. Leaving us as the only Proper Club in the League.

You could get to a situation where a Newco comes back buys players the way The Huns did Jelavic and Wallace(half now a bit later a bit later) but just buy then Newco to avoid paying the rest. a team like the huns for example could buy 5/6 players, spend about £6million(it would be rising to say £12million) but Newco and avoid the added £6million.

Or they could do the equivalent of Ticketus/JJB/Catering deals, plus sign players in the above way, Newco and have made money out of it.

 

yeS i would and it would be the same with an any other club who did what rangers have why is it that in this * hole of a country we are making changes to rules to benefit cheats yet in switzerland they have kicked out 4 teams this year 2 top teams at that and anywhere else in the world cheat are dealt with. if our board help parachute this newco then they become just as guilty as rangers for me there are more important things than money and this is one of them

 

Lets say they do exit through a cva. They will then be allowed into the spl no bother next season. Does that mean they get away with all the cheating they have done over the last 20 years and everyone will happily buy a season book next year to play the same cheating club??

 

Rules are Rules The Huns must start from the bottom League like Livingstone did ...What is wrong with those rules ??

 

So basically you would rather see Rangers punished , rather than Celtic flourish ?? As a Celtic fan i find that hard to believe. As much as i hate them im more worried about what my team does. Its true then your hatred of Rangers outweighs your love of Celtic.

 

They could have done that if they hadnt ran up as much debt.

They will never get a CVA. 1 The taxman wont accept a CVA unless he's getting top dollar(which would cost the person(s) doing the CVA atleast £30million) much more if they lose the big tax case.

If they were only in £20million debt, then they could maybe have gotten away with that for about £5/6million.

But when you rip the pish and run up £45million, with 1/3 of that the Taxmans money, with an impending £20million+ on top again to the Taxman, youve shot yourself in the foot, knee, * and neck.

 

It's got nothing to do with us or the huns, maybe the huns slightly as its them who want to Newco(well not want but Need) but no New Clubs should ever be allowed to waltz in to the top Division in any League.

 

I know the chances are slim. Very slim infact, but if they somehow managed it. How would it be ok for the same cheating * to not be punished?? No sanctions, no nothing?? The same club that has cheated for the last 20 years would just waltz back in.