A view on cancer?

Not sure but I think only certain types of dementia are genetic and if you have that gene, and you live long enough you will get it. Alzheimers I read some while ago I'm sure is mostly not genetic but don't quote me on that as being gospel.

 

Some would have you believe the use of mobile phones and microwaves cause cancer and have made the general public aware of this so..

Serious question? Should people who use them be shown sympathy if they find themselves in the very unfortunate position of having cancer at some stage in their lives ?

 

Pretty sure the some scientists have came out with yet more evidence saying mobile phones dont' cause harm (or at least nowhere near the level first anticipated)

 

All depends what one you happen to listen to

One day wine is bad for you , next day they tell you a glass a day is good for you


Chocolate is bad for you says scientist B on a tuesday

Wednesday scientist A says , NO it is not


Know what i mean ?



I prefer not to listen too much

 

Yes but smoking has been proven to be bad for you, never has anyone said smoking is good for you so there is no confusion there.

A comparison between smoking and microwaves from mobile phones is being pedantic. Very little evidence to say mobile phones have any impact whereas the evidence for smoking in general, not just cancer, is overwhelming.

 

I give up :bbpd:

 

I don't think smokers should receive less sympathy than any other cancer sufferer. That's not bias because I smoke either. If someone contracted skin cancer through using sunbeds(something I never use) then I wouldn't feel any less sympathy for them.

Cancer is just a horrible, horrible illness. Every sufferer and their families have my sympathies.

 

It would help if people knew what you were trying say.

 

As a man who has just spent the last four days in the Southern General watching the woman who raised me get weaker and weaker until the only thing she's able to do is just breathe, I have to say there's no way I couldn't sympathise with a sufferer.

If you can't see that, you need to take a look at yourself.

 

watched my brother in law go from a healthy 52 year old fit guy, who smoked about 10-15 roll ups a day, go from back pains > hospital > death from lung cancer in the space of 3 weeks.
that's how fast this * gets you.
for the love of * try not to smoke.
i'm at this moment giving it up, not easy, but the end result will be worse

 

Keep going mate, hopefully by seeing what it does to a family member, it will be enough to motivate you.

 

Thoughts are with you and your family at this difficult time.

 

I think it's incredibly sad to even try and 'rank' cancer patients dependent on their lifestyle choices. People who smoke knowingly accept the added risk of getting cancer, but the same can be said for so many things. Should you not have sympathy for victims of car crashes as they knew the risks associated with driving? Every time I've driven a car I've knowingly taken on the risk of being in the wrong place and the wrong time and potentially being hit by another car. It's not exactly the same as smoking, of course, but it's a similar sort of scenario.

We all take certain risks in out every-day lives that could one day be the end of us. That's life. Cancer is a disgusting, horrific disease that effects nearly everyone, directly or indirectly. What should never be done is wishing that upon someone, or witholding sympathy for some more than others.

 

As an ex smoker, i have to say that cancer stricken or not, i completely sympathise with people who smoke, full stop.I watch them outside restaurants and pubs and shops in all sorts of weather, and i think ...."poor *".Seriously i do.
No one who is that addicted to smoking does it through choice.They are complete addicts, and most have made many attempts to get off the *.I have heard it is harder to quit than heroin......not sure if thats right, but i can tell you as an ex, it is very very hard to quit once gripped by it.

Sympathy is something i think that comes naturally, and not necessarily something you choose to allocate.I cant deny having similar negative thoughts about smokers sometimes in the past, but when doing a lot of hospital visiting last year, i myself seen the pitiful smokers attached to a variety of tubes and plugs, drag themselves down in the lift to get outside for a *.Right there and then my heart went out to them.Truly truly pitiful.

On a side note to Greengrocer, i have to say that to my mind anyone that criticises smokers for being a drain on resources hasnt thought it through.
They contribute £10b a year directly in taxes through the purchase of cigs, which is 10% of the total cost of the NHS....including all aspects of the Dept of Heath, which encompasses a whole lot more than just cancer wards in hospitals!Smokers more than pay in advance for any treatment they subsequently need.
And anyway, they are not costing anyone anymore than they would if they didnt smoke.We mostly all end up in hospital dying at some point in our lives.......regardless of the cost or cause.


Without trying to be completely clinical about the subject, the Govt probably couldnt afford the cost of pensions and care homes and general old age care, if so many people didnt die from cancer and heart disease from smoking!!!.....but that is another subject.

 

Some good points MGM, but I have to disagree. Knowing how much it costs in treatment for one person (and a reason why I'm thankful I took ill in the UK as opposed to places without free healthcare) I feel if someone who has put themselves in hospital over years of poisoning themselves with drugs of any kind, if they don't show a real willingness to quit the *, booze, smack, coke, whatever their poison is then why should the NHS plow hundreds of thousands (per patient) when they don't care enough.
As I said before, I seen people smoking with an oxygen tank next to them and to me that is just plain stupid and a real drain on resources. Remember the money doesn't all have to be spent on treatments, their is nurse shortages, wards with a lack of equipment. There are many things needed in some hospitals to make them better and more efficient. And I'm not just talking about smokers, using that as a prime example. For example, if a guy who needs a liver transplant through years of substance abuse gets his new liver but fails to treat that gift correctly and he needs another transplant, would you give it him? Knowing fine well he had the precious gift a lot of people die waiting for, and only to ruin it again.

Then again, that's just my opinion and some might not share it. But I feel it's basically taking liberties.