What would it take for you to walk away next season?

Agreed, what a daft poll.

 

No offence but this kind of thinking for me indicates you hate rangers or the spl more than you love Celtic.

 

How do you come to that conclusion?

Is it not possible for people to be totally sickened by this sham of a country and league if the huns are allowed back in with the minimum of punishment?

This isn't about Celtic, it's about the integrity of the game.

There was a poll of Scottish fans done and 95% said they shouldn't be allowed to get off lightly, 55% said they would seriously reconsider continuing to finance the league if the huns are let off lightly.

This isn't about hating the huns, this is about sporting integrity and doing what's right for the image of the game.

 

Will never pack it in. Won't be happy if we vote them back in or if they're just threw back in but I'll be back.

 

I agree with cat123 on this one. I would also give up the game if this happened.

It isnt a case of hating rangers or even loving celtic. It is a case of having a fundamental belief that the time and money I am investing in a game is fair and meaningful. My feeling on this goes way beyond celtic and rangers. If a team can walk straight into the SPL purely based on their size through previous mis-spending, while other clubs are relegated because they play within the rules then whats the point? They might as well just raffle off who wins the league and who gets relegated each year as that would actually be fairer than allowing teams in a league purely based on financial clout, while watching honest teams drop down leagues because they spend within their means.

Realistically I would never be able to distance myself from Celtic completely. Of course they would still be my team. But I wouldnt pay a single penny more into a worthless and meaningless league. And if celtic voted to include Rangers I would also walk away from celtic. As tough as it would be, you really need to ask 'what would we actually be supporting' if that happened (I dont believe it will)?

I will just watch WWE. At least then there is no illusion that the winners and losers are completely scripted.

 

So what? it still wouldn't stop me from supporting Celtic both emotionally and financially. Yes i would be disgusted if it were to happen but my love for Celtic runs deeper than sporting integrity.

We all love our club, our manager and our players(to an extent :icon_mrgreen so if this were to happen would you all so easily abandon the same manager that we all so easily say "we are all neil lennon" you would so easily abandon the club because of Rangers and sporting integrity.

By all means i won't tell anyone not to stand for their morals or beliefs and if such a thing were to happen and as a result you walk away then fine. Don't call yourselves the best fans in the world if what OTHER people do affects the decision you make for YOUR club.

Its going to take a lot more than a Newco Rangers and sporting integrity to part from one of the highlights of my life. No sir, i do not go without a fight.

 

I think it would be disgraceful if the SPL let them back in.
The spl would be farcical with this reduced SPL revenue and the 10point deductions over two seasons, just to keep them in, we will be a laughing stock.

I support Celtic but don't go to many games although follow them like a *.

Can't deny without Rangers the Spl is going to be even more * than it is now and I would probably lose interest and only watch the European games avidly.

Surely Rangers fans would like to go to division 3 to at least come back with some dignity if they are liquidated.
Best for all is that they make it out of admin with the CVA but they are * financially for years and have the debt hanging round their neck while paying it off slowly and no European football.

 

That is an interesting notion - and to be honest I actually dont think my love for celtic does run deeper than sporting integrity. Because if you dont have any notion of fair play then whats the point? What are we actually watching if teams can hand pick who they want in and out of a league regardless of promotion or relegation or actual footballing achievement.

If celtic (or anyone else) voted rangers straight back into the SPL what they are effectively saying is that the honest efforts of the team that gets relegated mean nothing. And nor does the years of effort is has taken teams to get promoted. Who gives a toss if Hibs go down because they refused to be financially wreckless? Who gives a toss that it took Ross County over a decade to slowly work their way up to the SPL? Who gives a toss that thousands of fans pay their hard-earned money every year in the hope that their team can reach the top league by playing by the rules, because we want money and therefore we want to select the teams that get into our league? There has to be fairness otherwise simply put there is no point in the sport.

If Celtic voted Rangers back into the SPL I would honestly be done. Of course it would be almost impossible not to care, but I wouldnt go back. And as regards people calling themselves "the best fans in the world" (whatever that means), I would expect the best football fans would do the same as me and go watch an honest game somewhere else.

 

Has anyone got the link to the petition?

 

Its difficult to explain, but if Rangers did come back in as a Newco and even if Celtic did vote them back in then for me sporting integrity has been called into question not by Celtic but by Rangers and possibly the SPL/SFA. Thereby the morality of such a case does not fall on Celtic's shoulders it in fact falls on Rangers, their board and their fans.

Celtic's vote to allow Rangers back in would not be the deciding vote, other teams in the league would also have to vote, also if you were to think objectively and without bias or prejudice you could understand quite easily why Celtic would vote Rangers back in, from a financial and competitive point of view.

Celtic in my eyes will not have done anything fundamentally wrong since the onus of morality and sporting integrity falls onto rangers lap not ours.

Just to add a wee bit on, it is not Celtic who have brought sporting integrity into question, rangers have, if the shoe was on the other foot and Celtic were trying to gain access back into the SPL after being liquidated then there would be serious thought in my mind about financially backing and emotionally backing such a team.

 

Absolutely ridiculous that anyone would give up the team they love because of something happening across the city. I'll never give up on Celtic.

 

Would never throw the towell in Been there a lot in 50 years of supporting Celtic, need to bury me first.

 

What makes you think the SPL would allow them to be pish? They want to change the rules to make sure they're still in the league despite going out of business because a) they think they need the huns to challenge us for the league b) the other clubs need their fans to bankroll them and c) Sky want to show them playing us. If they're * and less of their fans go and watch them, none of those things apply any more. Sky won't want to show a public humiliation every time we play them, their fans won't go up to Inverness etc to watch them get pumped and the league will be in the bag before the league cup final. What would be the point in letting them back in if that's what it was leading to?

How good they are isn't the issue to me anyway. The idea of us helping to sweep cheating under the carpet despite being the ones who lost out on titles and champions league football because of it would be.

 

No offence but you can * off with that *. I stood in the * Jungle week after week, month after month, year after year when the huns were doing 9 in a row and we regularly finished outside the top 2.

Now if it comes to pass that the huns actually cheated back then, when I was spending my hard earned money to follow my team and was mocked and laughed at by them while we were struggling then I would find it hard to stomach if my club then turned around and voted them back in for monetary gain at the expense of doing the right thing.

My love for my club will never die, it's in my blood, but I wont be a party to letting these * off with their decades of systematic cheating, and I would thank you not to look down your nose at me for taking this view.

 

I'll tell you what, the powers that be must be rubbing their hands in delight at the "faithful through and through" brigade.

It's playing right into their hands of sweeping the huns wrongdoing under the carpet.

 

I have to agree with Sean Daleer on this one. But to me it isnt even a celtic v rangers issue. Because whether they are in the SPL or not we should still be strolling the league for a long time to come. On a personal note, I would even like to see them there just so we could pump them every time we play.

But to me it goes beyond celtic and rangers. It fundamentally comes down to what football is and why I enjoy it. And I believe if any team who vote Rangers newco into SPL for financial gain whilst relegating hard working smaller teams who havent cheated in the past are simply morally corrupt in the football sense. It simply defeats any notion of success or failure, not regarding celtic, but regarding every team in the league. As I said above, teams like Ross Country spend 15 years working hard and honestly to get into the SPL. And we are talking about allowing a team to skip over 3 leagues worth of teams, the vast majority of who have lived within their means, paid their taxes, etc, etc. I just wouldnt want to be part of it - to me it would be corrupt to the core and would utterly devalue why we even turn up to watch football.

 

Would never stop Following Celtic irrespective of what happens next.

 

I'd never pack it in, things would anger me greatly but at the end of the day I'm here for Celtic.

Celtic only!

 

Rangers are unbelievably irrelevent to me. Im 22 yrs old and with the way things sound is that they have cheated my entire life but we have still won 7 of the last 12 league titles. Being a Celtic player/fan has always seemed about overcoming the odds as this league has always been a bit biaist in my opinion. Let them in unfairly and we will continue to skelp them or let them die and we will just skelp whoever fills the void. Im Celtic through and through regardless of the obstacle or the injustice.

 

I won't i already said i respect the view if thats the one you choose, doesn't mean i agree with it.

As you say rangers have been doing this for decades, why stop now? If the question does indeed come to pass, what good will it do giving up now, whatever Celtic decide to do will be for Celtic's best interest.

Faithful through and through, we are all neil lennon, celtic till i die, the actions of another club do not have any bearing on my support for my team.