WEST OF SCOTLAND PROBLEM...NOT !

When our mini bus arrived in Edinburgh yesterday just after one,most of baled off quickstyle and went to the pub,leaving our driver and one other to tag behind.About 15 minutes later we got aphone call from the guys telling us that as they walked towards Easter Road,a * with a Ran#ers hat was walking towards them with a takeaway cup in his hand.As the * got near,without warning the scumbag threw the cup of hot liquid in our drivers face.As the guy screamed his mate went to attack the scumbag,who legged it. He gave chase and two cops appeared and saw what was happening.
They grabbed the * and arrested him.When they went to search him he had fireworks hidden down his trousers.This * must have been intent on doing some damage.He was to appear in court today.
Our driver was shocked but ok,as the coffee thrown at him wasnt red hot but he was left with some pain for a while on his face.
For all those who maintain that all this bigotry and hatred towards us is a West of Scotland legacy then think again,and I include some on here that share that view.
All this poor guy done was wear a green and white scarf and he could have been blinded and scarred for life..SCOTLANDS SHAME !.

 

Scumbag.

 

i've been saying to folk on here for years that its not a west coast problem.

hope that hun * gets the jail, but i doubt he will

 

What a bawbag.

 

There are arseholes everywhere. Especially when you're talking about Rangers fans.

None of that changes the fact that sectarianism and knife culture, two of Scotland's biggest problems, are most prevalent in the west coast of Scotland. I just cannot agree with anyone that thinks otherwise. Sorry.

 

West coast problem is the sort of thing east coast politician types say. It's bullshit. Anti Irish/Celtic/Catholic sentiment is a Scotland problem.

 

we're hoping the * pleads not guilty and goes to trial,as our mates will be called as witnesses and there will be a full busload of us paying him a visit at court :icon_mrgreen:

 

fair enough ,thats your opinion.Of course you're right,in that its more prevalent in the west coast but that doesnt mean that anti Irish/Catholic/Celtic bigotry isnt alive in many other parts of this country and in some places even worse.
I have listened to Celtic fans from Inverness,and indeed Aberdeeen telling me about instances of sectarianism against them,been called tarrier/*/papish * while a lot of these guys are non Catholic.
It proves to me that it is indeed Scotland's problem

 

Yeah, I'm not saying it doesn't exist in other parts of Scotland. I'm quite sure it does. I'm just saying that it's a fair bit worse in the west coast.

This country has come a long way over the last 30/40 years when it comes to tackling things like racism/sexism etc. Which is good of course. But when it comes to anti-Catholicism I think we haven't progressed nearly as far. It's one of the things about this country that saddens me.

 

aye one mental Rangers fan in Edinburgh is statistical proof!!

Here is an extract from a real report on sectarianism:


Sectarian charges in Scotland have hit a four-year high with hundreds linked to football.

The latest figures produced by the Scottish Government show what it says is the "shameful reality" of sectarian incidents in the country.

In the last year there were 693 charges aggravated by religious prejudice, up nearly 10% on the previous year and the highest level since 2006.


According to the statistics published on Friday, 58% of charges related to offences which were derogatory towards Roman Catholicism and 37% of charges related to offences which were derogatory to Protestantism.

The report also found 2.3% of the religious hate charges related to Judaism and 2.1% related to Islam.

Community safety minister Roseanna Cunningham said: "These statistics show the shameful reality of religious hate crime in Scotland. Like racism, this kind of behaviour simply shouldn't be happening in a modern Scotland but sadly, it seems there are still those who think hatred on the basis of religion is acceptable.

"We need a wholesale change of attitudes, and this new report provides a valuable insight into the nature and scale of religious hate crime across Scotland. It shows that charges for religious hatred are up 10% on last year, to the highest level in four years, and it also shows that a disproportionate number of religious hate crimes are directly linked to football, both in stadiums, on public transport and in bars.

"That is why we have made clear that we will be looking at further wide ranging actions across society, such as in schools and communities, in addition to legislation to send out a clear message that this behaviour will not be tolerated any longer."

The report also states that almost 80% of the religious hate charges were recorded in the Strathclyde Police force area, while there were no such incidents reported in Aberdeenshire, East Lothian and the Orkney, Shetland and Western Isles.

 

Usual denial rearing it's head.

 

It doesn't matter where you stay or what area you come from. . You get arseholes anywhere being idiots.

 

If you want to be more accurate it is a west-central problem rather than west coast one. Parts of the west coast (like the west highlands and islands has very low levels of sectarianism while sectarianism does creep along the central belt into Fife. I have heard a few east coasters say that the western part of Fife is kind of 'west coast' in its mentality. 80% of the sectarian crime comes from the Strathclyde police area (prob around 500 crimes) while zero was reported in Aberdeenshire. OK the population is higher but not over 500 times higher!!!

 

So you base your views on one report of one (Rangers supporter) in Edinburgh instead of a proper statistical analysis of hundreds of crimes of this type? DO you prefer to play the victim? 80% of sectarian crime was recorded in Strathclyde and I bet you most of the remaining 20% was neighbouring police areas - central Scottish Police Force. Sectarianism is super-concentrated into west-central Scotland, way out of proportion even allowing for its big population.

 

No, I base my opinion on staying in Falkirk for 4 years, not very west coast. Go on any hun forum and look at the locations.

Was a catholic march not attacked in Liverpool at the weekend there ? where in the west coast of Scotland is Liverpool ?

 

Agreed on the west coast thing but what I find extremely sinister is that it is getting more of a problem elsewhere in places that didnt have,or had very little incident of this sectarianism,maybe in the past decade or so.
The media have certainly played their part in a lot of this and I think the emergence of the internet and facebook/twitter etc has been a big factor

 

Do you think maybe the statistics point towards more incidents in the Strathclyde area may be down to us and them being based here ? ie most incidents are happening on match days when crowds of us and them are gathered in crowds ?

 

Thats why west-central is a better term. The belt from Glasgow to West Fife is part of the old industrial sprawl where the sectarian traditions spread. I think the term west coast is unfair on most of the west highlands and islands.

 

Certainly but the whole orange and green traditions that the OF reflect to some degree are also superconcentrated in the same area. I have posted before a map of orange lodges in Scotland and they are almost all in west-central Scotland. Different parts of Scotland are utterly different culturally and in terms of historical baggage. Ironically, and unfortunately, the most vehement people in the orange and green traditions are both located in the same part of Scotland.

 

To demonstrate where orangism and loyalism is concentrated in Scotland here is a map of lodges in Scotland