Celtic behind the times

Might just be me that think this but i can't help but think for Celtic being such a big club we are still in the dark ages with allot of modern things social networks the internet and fan interaction being a major factor for me.

It took us long enough to sort a facebook out and as petty as it probably is we have less fans than the Huns on it this doesn't mean much but considering every man and their dogs got the thing it does make you think if Celtic really do have millions worldwide why only around the 200,000 mark on Facebook we have certainly went down and down since WGS and MON were in charge.

Anyway the point I'm making is i look at the likes of Man City on twitter and facebook and they are forever doing competitions allowing fans to interact with players ask them questions, win boots, memorabilia, free tickets for matches and even have their say in the club what things they would like to see at games and so on they even had a player cam in the tunnel this week so fans could see what goes on before the games and regularly show videos of training on their youtube channel and have even released an Iphone app and flickr for fans to post their pictures of them at games etc.

I just think that the internet is a market in itself and we all know how Liewell likes to break into markets but the way i see it it's as if they're just happy with us paying the £30-£40 to games and that's it theirs no voice for the fans.

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/

http://www.celticfc.net/mainindex

just compare them and hopefully you'll understand what i'm getting at the Celtic website is just a news site with stuff you already know

 

We are all Techno fobs!!! Where's ma moose- oh the cat ate it!!!!

 

i agree with your point mate.

marketing is becoming (or has become) a must in modern football unfortuinitly.

I think it is essential celtic get up to date with this.

Even there TV channel was outdated when it went live. It basically give you stereo typical information that everyone knew anyway.

 

Paolo you raise some very valid and interesting points. Why not write to Celtic directly and raise these very issues?

 

there's plenty of opportunities for the fans to voice opinion and facebook isn't it. facebook exists to make money for itself and I'm perfectly happy for our club not to assist them in that.

"Liewell" as you call him, has played a major part in expanding our global fanbase and no amount of facebook friends on a hun site takes that away......... you said "petty" you were right.

 

I hardly ever use the official site, it's always last with the * news anyway.

Don't use Facebook so couldn't comment on that.

good points you make Paolo.

 

That's simply because most people have already 'Liked' another 'Celtic FC' - an unofficial one which has 215,000 members.

 

Glad people agree and aye Joe you're right the tv channel was an absolute disaster imo i just feel that through the years the club seem to make half arsed attempts when it comes to anything modern I mean i know for a fact I haven't picked up a CelticView in about 3 years now and i know allot of people that have done the same.

Iv'e emailed the club loads of times lion on different points including that never had a reply in my life .

Don't get me wrong i wish football was still the working mans game it once was but what you have to remember is back then the fans felt a part of the club with players visiting CSC's/pubs and making a genuine effort in modern times it's social interaction through the internet that's took over but Celtic seem to not care less about the old school way or the modern.

 

"Plenty of opportunities for fans to voice their opinion" You're going to have to give me some examples i take it the directors are forever wanting to know our opinions are they ?

 

OK. So you never buy anything Celtic related that has Nike on it? You don't have Sky, an ISP, wear designer brands, eat in McDonalds, use fossil fuels..... Aint that right Mr Anti-Capitalist?

What by buying a couple of South Koreans?

Paolo is right - compared to clubs we think we are 'bigger' than we look like we are still a VHS compared to their Blu-Ray.
Maybe fire that in an email to Celtic Paolo - you never know.
I am on the Official CFC Facebook and tbh it is quite poor. I think one of the directors daughters must do it.

 

Exactly just having a look their and the Aston Villa site has near on 100,000 more and by the looks a much better run site for the fans.
Summed it up perfectly with vhs and blu ray we're getting left in the dark ages by teams like Villa before we would like to think are not even half of Celtic.

 

where do I start?

Firstly, calling me anti capitalist for disliking facebook is pish. I'm pro capitalism, * I'm pro free trade, but I'm guessing that was a knee * statement as opposed to wanting a theological debate about the benefits of capitalism............. I have a problem with facebook. A site which has been used as a tool to bully, hurl racist abuse, stalk, persecute. I don't like it, I'm not apologising for that.

Onto buying a couple of South Korean's. Yes, this is huge, but you've ignored the strides we've made in the US (serveral massive supporters clubs now) and South America for that matter as well. You think opening Celtic up to a fanbase of potentially nigh 50 million people is just a little thing? Having spent time there and with several friends still living there it's clear that we're becoming huge in South Korea. But you carry on and sneer if you like.

I completely agree though that more work can be done with our own website. We're a bit behind the times and updates are * poor to be honest. The one thing I would say about other sites mentioned re Man City, is that it looks to me like a catalogue (not complaining about it). I'd prefer our site to be more informative than it is right now, which in itself would work as a marketing tool.

 

No, I'm not suggesting for a second that they're forever wanting our opinions, I just think there's a better place for that to be done than facebook. I don't really want the board, the management, the players spending time * about on facebook trying to answer what would be hundreds of thousands of queries on there. There's better work to be done.

 

The way I've seen Facebook be used in other companies is that the board/players/employees don't actually use it themselves. They're asked normal press questions and then a tech intern will put the answers down. It's not like they are forced away from practice to spend an hour on the internet. Facebook is an incredible tool for marketing.

 

Maybe Celtic feel they do enough with online media. Maybe they should be looking for more input from the fans to see what we think. The official Celtic website is gash, looks so *, and tbh I would rather be on here than the official site or facebook page.
More needs to be done to get with the times and with the amount of money invested on advertising, media and websites it looks like such a waste when the majority, i feel, don't use the official sites.

 

I agree that it is, the numbers you can reach is frightening. I just have a personal issue with facebook and I'm voicing my opinion. I wouldn't be up in arms if we put more effort into it. I just don't think a * facebook page necessarily equates to the board being poor marketers. They're really not.

 

What exactly would you have them do? Do you really think that the twitter idea that Man City have came up with will revolutionise anything? All it does is allows supporters, and anyone else who wants to, to tweet and possibly get messages up on a big screen. The tweets are also moderated. How is this great progress leaving Celtic in the dark! If you read some of the article, they also mention the fact that phone coverage is limited on matchdays in and around the stadium (as it is at CP), so people at the game will have a hard time trying to send said tweets.

Any official Facebook, twitter etc is only going to give you the same tripe that you get in the Celtic View and on the website. There is no official club service that will give you the juicy goss that you get from unofficial sources.

We have the iPad app for Match Day Programmes, an iPhone app, Facebook page and Celtic TV online. They also have the twitter account coming soon as well. I think they are keeping up now with the rest of society and cant really think of anything else that they could be doing at the moment.

 

Also just had a look at the Man City website and there isnt much extra stuff there. I would say it looks visually better, but that is down to the fact that they use brighter colours. We really have to use Green which isnt always the easiest on the eye as it can look pretty dull.

I dont see what the big deal is in asking players a question. The questions that will be asked are the bog standard ones that will be covered in the Celtic View and in Programmes. You get to see in the tunnel before games on the tv so not missing out there. I am positive that the Celtic TV channel covers them training at times as well.

We also have the Celtic viewer where you can view old games and ne videos are added all the time. They even have the launch of the strip on there.

even mor enow, I dont think that they are being left behind.

The one thing that they could brush up on though is possiblyy adding wifi at CP. I dont think its neccasarily the done thing at football grounds but the fact that the fone reception is so bad would make it handy.

 

Even something as simple as an official Celtic F.C. Twitter account would be nice ... just to see that check-mark of authenticity/verification would be kinda key.

Who else would follow Celtic's official account?

 

So are school playgrounds. I bet you went there and send your children.
And your original point made no reference to the bullying, harrassment or anything else. All you said was, and i quote

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That to me sounds like you have more a problem with the fact Facebook makes money.

I wasnt sneering, just pointing out. And i agree with all you have said there.
But we have had supporters clubs in the USA, Canada and Oz for decades. Dunno why you think that's a new fad.