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Why the big change,what has happened our support ?

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by faw cough, Dec 17, 2011.

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  1. faw cough Gold Member Gold Member

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    What has happened our Support ?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTmPANoMPtg&feature=related


    Watch that video above,them were the days.

    Everyone was one,they all sang the same ssongs,no fear of reprimand.

    But these days we are all worried about what "the animals say".

    Why had no one got an issue years back,now we are in uproar over a banner saying "* UEFA"...Sweet Jesus Bhoys and Ghirls,stick together and bring back the solidarity that used to exist.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gslPWwD8xmQ&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbjccPaO4K0&feature=related

    Yes these tunes Unite us aswell,but i Love to see the old tunes being belted out also.

    Do not try and tell me the Bhoys and Ghirls who stood on these terraces were offended by the songs we continue to sing today.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYn8aW2Oiqs&feature=related

    Don't be bowing to those who hate us.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi5Q6EsbB-E&feature=related



    Once again....let's all be one

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbjccPaO4K0&feature=related




    I think we are going to have to drop "Up the Ra" in the Celtic Symphony,just replace it with "Up Ra Celts" :celt_2::icon_mrgreen:


    Peace out Brothers and Sisters :shamrock:
     
  2. Sean Daleer Ten Thirty Gold Member

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    Agree with all of that CT, the first video fills me with pride.

    We don't have to agree with each other but lets try and respect each other's beliefs.
     
  3. Vinnie BBQ Justice is lost Justice is raped Justice is gone.

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  4. Boldfenian

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    I agree..it seems alot of the support is divided at the moment and it has came about by the criminalisation of some of our songs. Alot of people like myself dont agree with the governments, make it up as you go along law, and some do, which is causing some internal arguing amoungst the support.
    Our rivals and media especially couldnt seem to handle our unity and worldwide good name we seemed to have had.
    They couldnt seem to handle Rangers fans getting all the bad press when it came to sectarian issues such as their fans being banned from grounds because UEFA had warned them on numerous occasions to stop their songs of hate, things such as our manager getting death threats and being assaulted in the street and at football grounds all because he was merely an Irish Catholic.
    They wanted to show that we were just as bad and tried to go down the road that we were sectarian too because elements of our support sang pro IRA songs.
    Sections of our support who actually read the media rags and listen to their news reports and football phone ins actually were beginning to be brainwashed into believing we had a sectarian problem.
    When it was proven that our songs wer'nt sectarian, the media and our rivals didnt have a leg to stand on when pressing for the sectarian label..so they changed it to illicet and offensive. Now elements have latched on to it and have also started to believe this also.
    Now that UEFA has hit us with a fine and a warning the media and co are loving it as its causing unrest. They'll highlight to the extreme every little thing that a minority of our support do, things like a stupid banner, a few "illegal" flares.

    To me, they are winning on this mission to cause divide amoungst us.

    If all it needs is to drop a few lines in a few songs to get us back as the best support in the country then so be it. Dont let them win, we can show them we have dozens of other songs that support our team, beliefs and faith without falling into their petty agenda.

    On a side note, this isnt the first time we've had a media agenda against the songs we sing..they have tried before on one of our most famous one of all....[​IMG]
     
  5. carpe diem 67

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    Cannot believe the flack that is being directed at the GB right now. A week ago everyone was raving about them but that all seems to have been forgotten. If I was them I wouldn't bother supporting the team at the next home game as the manager seems to think that they are not needed. Let's see what happens then, will all these 'fans' calling for them to be banned/jailed/hung get behind the team? I think not.
     
  6. Vic the Brick

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    When has there ever been a group of fans with a name and have people talking about them?

    They have created the problem by being attention seeking gits who want their day in the papers. Sad.

    This all goes back to the poppy incident. If that had not happened we would not be here.
     
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    no disrespect, but celtic has been well supported for 124 years
    through the fifties,lisbon,milan,seville and all larsson times home and away.
    dont want the G.B. to stop supporting the team like you suggest but Celtic
    would survive.
     
  8. Paul McAuley

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    Dont worry OP we will still get The Roll of honor at Ibrox and amhran na bhfiann at Celtic park.

    The Celtic support at the moment are split into two groups. Those who go to most games and have opinions and judgement on what they see around them (quite rightly).

    And those who sit in front of a tv watching it, the games that are not on tv the read about in he paper and may attend the odd game. There opinions and judgments are from the media ether subconsciously or fear of reprimand due to other peoples opinions.

    I know this dosent apply to all the fans but I believe personally that this is the case and the proof is there to be seen.
     
  9. Shane1888

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    Weed out the morons within our support and everything will be the way it once was. I know its easier said than done, but I believe the club has set a precedence by banning the lad who displayed the banner and it will hopefully serve as a warning to others who are thinking about doing the same thing.

    Despite all of the arguing in here last night and I'm sure on other Celtic forums too, the support will be united as one again come tomorrow afternoon at McDiarmid Park. The one thing that Celtic supporters do best is get right behind our team and create an amazing atmosphere and we have several awards and appraisals from top figures in the world of football to prove it.

    Let's not lose sight of what's important; backing the club all the way and bringing back the glory days of bygone eras, such as Stein, O'Neill and Strachan :shamrock:

    And on this note, I leave you with:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhIXZvY95Gs
     
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  10. CelticFC1967

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    Know what the worst part for me is? That lot across the city would never turn on their own fans they way a lot of Celtic fans have - they're far more united than us right now.
     
  11. Kutek

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    its because its 2011 nearly 2012 peoples views have changed on the matter and political correctness has gone mad
     
  12. greengrocer

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    I really don't see why certain chants are just so hard fought to get sang at games. Why can't we all look at the bigger picture and be a united support.
    We have plenty of songs to sing that are allowed by UEFA and the SPL/SFA. Why do we always have to fight and basically make songs more important than the fans, the team and the football?

    Let's keep it clean.......And keep it green:50:
     
  13. Paul McAuley

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    Agreed but thats because the Rangers support is streamlined mainly white protestant with the same idealism.

    At the minute Republican Celtic fans are being criminalized from both the establishment and there own fans for what is Celebrated in our mother Ireland.
     
  14. Sween

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    Eh, this is wrong on so many levels.....

    But as much as we all debate this stuff everyday on here, I expect that on sunday and especially for the old firm game on the 28th celtic fans will be on the same page again. These are issues that wont go away any time soon, but the support will hopefully always be united when it comes down to actually supporting the team - which is the only reason why we are all here.
     
  15. Paul McAuley

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    What was wrong about it?
     
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    Don't think we criminalize Republicanism. Look at many of the posts and they will say that they sing the songs but don't feel the need to make it more important than the team.
    A lot of Celtic fans celebrate their Irish heritage but see why that there is a time and place.
    Once the authorities and powers that be at Celtic ask for certain aspects of our song/chant choice, then keep supporting the team in a manner that won't get us humped by the police, UEFA and Scottish football jokers.

    What is so wrong about that?
     
  18. Paul McAuley

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    Singing up the RA is now Illegal therefore it is criminalizing the celebration of the republican movement. My original statement was 100% accurate.

    Moving on from that what right do the powers at be have to tell me i cant celebrate it anywhere. What they are doing is quite frankly internationnaly Illegal.

    Article 19 of The Universal Declaration of Human Rights states; Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers
     
  19. alrn

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    I'm utterly bored to death by the infighting on Celtic fans forums right now! This situation is not replicated at any games I've been to (which, with the exception of Aberdeen away is every one) this season. Republicanism does not equate to supporting the IRA, Irish republicanism does not equal supporting Celtic. I understand the teenage need to support a cause but the forum for that ideal should not be Celtic park. I used to sing Roll of Honour with gusto in the jungle but now it makes me cringe when I hear it at a game - not because of the sentiment of the song - but I realise now that a football stadium is not the place.
     
  20. Paul McAuley

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    So your saying anyone with a Republican agenda and is a Celtic fan is an Ignorant wee boy? Very Immature sweeping statement and WRONG imo, makes me cringe.

    If you want to Ignore Irishness at Celtic Games get the flag down and the shamrock off the jersey.

    Dont pitch a club as being Irish then ban the glorification of its history