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Scott Brown Signs 3 Year Deal

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by pokerbhoy74, Oct 25, 2011.

Discuss Scott Brown Signs 3 Year Deal in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Larsson93

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    Brooney tell your Agent to * off!!
     
  2. Balearic bhoy

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    I have said before that browns wage will cause a bit of jealousy at the club as we have in my opinion 4 or 5 players who could quite rightly look at his 25k per week and wonder why they get less than 15k per week when they are every bit if not more important to the team. Kayal (FTR i fell out of love with him at rugby park) must have been pretty * off at the club stalling his wage increase for 7k to 14k when broony is sitting on 25k. Ledley is a key player for us when will he start to look at browns salary and wonder why he aint on better money.

    Also when we try to sign anyone decent they will use browns salary as the benchmark, if he hasn't signed his deal by jan window sell him for a mill and use the money along with any other funds the board had planned for lenny and use the freed up wages for a couple of decent players that can pass the ball 20 yards or more.

    If he signs he signs if he doesn't we move on, simple really
     
  3. DiVHoops

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    I seem to remember reading when Ledley signed that he's on £25k a week as well. Commons is also on £25k with the other intergral part of that midifeld 4 from last season Kayal on £7k before his new contract. You can see why Kayal was a bit peeved.
     
  4. Balearic bhoy

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    Here is a list of agents fees paid by clubs down south last year, i think you should take a look at man united outlay as they make a point of making sure their books at the end of the year don't show massive payments to agents, i believe they pay the player slightly extra and tell him to pay his own agent.





    Arsenal – £3,660,199.00
    Aston Villa – £2,279,536.50
    Birmingham – £1,518,529.09
    Blackburn – £1,623,232.92
    Blackpool – £45,000.00
    Bolton – £3,549,316.72
    Chelsea – £9,293,751.48
    Everton – £3,599,040.51
    Fulham – £2,087,373.55
    Liverpool – £9,032,528.49
    Manchester City – £5,952,261.33
    Manchester United – £2,312,726.00
    Newcastle – £2,417,776.00
    Stoke – £2,196,968.50
    Sunderland – £4,421,990.72
    Tottenham – £5,361,229.87
    West Brom – £614,195.73
    West Ham – £3,419,089.99
    Wigan – £2,461,500.00
    Wolves – £1,291,794.00
    Total – £67,138,040.40
     
  5. Larsson93

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    Well they can all learn to deal with it. Brooney is the captain that is why he has the best wage. If someone is coming in they can measure themselves against other players. The captain has extra responsibility and has a few extra grand for that.
     
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    Brooney could sign the contract today if he really wanted to, this "agent holding up the deal" thing doesn't hold much water for me; it may be true but if brooney really wanted signed up he'd pay it himself, why should the club pay his agent?

    A shambles if we let a £4million player leave for * all, a shame as well since brooney was finally looking like the player he was meant to be last season

    Honestly think he's waiting on an English team to come calling
     
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  7. Balearic bhoy

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    I don't agree with the captain being the highest paid player simply because he is the captain, mitigating circumstances dictate highest paid players, including how good an agent they have and how much image rights they bring in

    Was tommy boyd paid more than larsson just for being captain?
    was paul lambert paid more than larsson just for being captain?
    was jackie mac paid more than larsson just for being captain?
    was Stephen mcmanus paid more then naka or boruc for being captain

    just some recent examples, also if we did actually have player we signed that was genuinely worth 4.4 mill on 25k a week brown prob wouldn't even be the captain. We lack a true leader on the park and it shows at times. I Don't think we got good value out the whole scott brown investment, i cant fault the guys work rate and he always gives the 100% I just dont think he develped into the player that showed potential at hibs, his head got caught up in trying to be a hardman instead of learning how to play a defence splitting pass every now and again or * forbib get into double figures for goals in a season
     
  8. s88 Gold Member Gold Member

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    havent read through the whole thread, but the whole agent fee thing seems a bit wierd to me .. why do celtic have to pay anything to the agent? surely brown is the one that hired him, and the agent speaks on behalf of scott brown??

    anyway, i think we're in a lose-lose situation with brown. £25k p/w for him is laughable(i think anyway) when comparing it to other more valuable players in the squad, so a wage increase would be crazy.
    Selling him in january for little money, or letting his contract run down, well he's going to cost us money either way, and to the guy above me that said the thing about a £4M player.. well is never, and never has been a £4M player, and ive said time and time again, the only reason we paid so much for him is because we got lodged in a stupid bidding war with the huns for him.

    to me the most buisness/logical plan would be to sell him asap. wether that be in january for buttons, or get his contract renewed to punt him in the summer for more money. he's not in alot of people's starting 11 on here. he's a player that i would like to have on the bench, but for what he's getting paid i would rather have the money spent on a more valuable player
     
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    He is a * dreadful player. get him off the wage bill and get some quality player(s) on better wages.
     
  10. Balearic bhoy

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    at the time of brown and thomson being touted for sale the talk was the pair were going for 4mill and we end up paying that for brown alone, rangers got the better player unfortunately, his 25k a week would help us bring in a quality defender and with a few quid extra from the board we could might end up with a striker as well. We would defo get a mill for him in jan i use maloney as an example when M.O.N signed him for villa.
     
  11. MagicBallBhoy Gold Member Gold Member

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    if this is true, and i have no reason to doubt you, this is celtic * hour yet again (when will it ever * end)

    if they know that its standard practice to pay players agents fees, why make this public and be stubborn about it, there's already a time limit on this, what with him being able to sign a precontract in January

    rightly or wrongly brown is gonna think why am i being singled out for the problem of agents fees not being paid by me, when its standard practice for the club to pay them

    i'm not condoning browns stance and i think it's ridiculous that the club are expected to pay the agent

    and also when the club decided it was gonna go down this route i.e. to embarrass scott brown into paying it they should have made and continue to make lots of noise! so as to get us fans really worked up and * off at him ending up at banners and songs being sung about him at celtic park, not nice ones like :86:
     
  12. D'Ecosse

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    You would expect that most of those fees quoted are going to be associated with transfers.
    In that case I have no real objection to the buying club paying that - after all, the agent has helped to get that player to their club, regardless of whether his primary interest is to the player. So they receive some benefit from his 'services'
    Brown's situation is a contract renewal negotiation - the club gets nothing from this 'service', in fact it is the contrary - the agent is clearly working against the club to a) get the maximum amount of money for his client and b) use the lever of taking the player elsewhere.

    In this case the player should pay the agent - he is the beneficiary of the services.
    Brown needs to take a look at what he has done to earn his money over those extended periods of absence and show some gratitude.

    This situation is, frankly, * me off.
     
  13. Wicker Bhoy

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    Sorry I'm a bit confused, is the problem with the agent the amount that he wants Celtic to pay him or is the problem that he is expecting Celtic to pay him at all? If its the first one then Celtic should stick to their guns and not pay out to someone chancing their arm, if its the latter however then I think the club might be in the wrong as I was always under the impression it was the club who payed the agents fee, wrong as that may seem.

    As for Brown though, don't rate him to highly but what a waste of money it would be to let a £4.4m signing plus 4(?) years of wages walk out the door on a free.
     
  14. Balearic bhoy

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    my point listing the agents fees paid to clubs was look at man united, they are practically the lowest club paying agents fees, think of the transfer dealings they did or contract re negotiations through that season.

    I use them of an example of a well run club, the agent works for brown not Celtic, brown should pay him, i would be loathe to see a payment of 500,000 or 1mill on our books next season to an agent when most of our players don't earn that in a year.
     
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    I disagree with this very strongly. Brown is constantly on the teams backs when they slip up and first to congratulate them when they do well. Kayal especially plays far better when Broooney plays.

    Do you not remember his ball for Hooper against the scum? To quote Crosas "it was Xaviesque.
     
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    This is what I am unsure about too.

    If Celtic normally pay agents fees but Broony's agent is chancing his arm looking for a huge fee then I think Celtic are right to dig their heels in. Although it will be a very expensive way to prove a point!

    On the other hand, if it's standard procedure for the club to pay the agent's fee but Celtic are fannying about and trying to get out of it then I will be well * * off.

    Scott Brown is a good player and he's a player we could get anywhere upwards of £3million for if he was under contract. If we allow him to walk away for nothing we are just weakening ourselves on the pitch and on the balance sheet.
     
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    Why the * is this an issue....i cna't understand it....are football clubs expected to negotiate a deal for the player.....then negotiate with an agent? There should be a standard practice in place by.....something like whatever deal the players gets....the agent gets a percentage.

    If it is the case football clubs have to negotiate with the agent for the players deal and then negotiate with the agent for his deal, this is just * ridiculous
     
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    To be honest, the rules' on players agents need to be overhauled and made a lot tighter.

    Let's face it, by & large they are flagrant cocksuckers who need scoured from the face of the game.

    I can't recall the issue of agents fees coming up much at the club in the past, so I think we can presume that either this * is asking for some huge fee, or he has been creating trouble and pised the club right off. Either way, * him.

    To be honest, if Scott Brown himself is willing for his new Celtic contract to be scuppered by this, then * him. I make no secret of the fact I don't rate him much as a player - but I did think the club meant a wee bit more to him than this.
     
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    Drop this fuckface agent and get me in, i'll do it for £500 and a season ticket.
     
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    Haven't read the whole thread, but agree with this man.
    Surely there should be a set rule in place, and not just winging it with each individual player.
    No one forces any sportsman to have an agent surely, so if they employ one then, IMO they should have to pay for the * themselves.