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John Hartson's Column? WTF

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by paddymcp, Sep 20, 2011.

Discuss John Hartson's Column? WTF in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Seán_67

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    BBJ has essentially said what most of us where thinking after (and during) the game on Sunday imo. Don't think anyone can disagree with his criticisms of anyone he has singled out - which is basically the whole team - and the questions he puts forward are relevant ones.


    The only thing I all out disagree with is Matthews - no chance should he have started over Wilson. He is young and for the future, meaning he is back up to the first choice right back. No reason he should be started in an OF game over M. Wilson.


    BBJ was also spot on to criticise Lenny for his selection of players and I also feel he was spot on to ask why Maj didn't start over Glenda: someones already made the point that, while he may be clumsy, Maj will not let himself get bullied as easily as Loovens. Or K. Wilson for that matter. But considering that is his first bad league performance he can be given a second chance. Loovens, on the other hand, has proven time and time again he is not a big game (in fact, almost any type of game) player.


    If Maj was not going to be picked Mulgrew should have been moved back in to CB after his move left for the Madrid game and Ledley started at LM. Yes, he is better in the centre but I for one would rather he was on the pitch that on the bench.

    As for Commons, fit or not, imo he would not have deserved a start anyway. That said, I would have liked him on the bench then to at least have the option of giving him a chance to push back into the first XI.

    He's spot on about both Ki and Hoopers performance on Sunday as despite the latter's brilliantly taken goal neither were in the mood at all.

    On the whole I don't think BBJ's article merits the * or the accusation of talking crap. The majority on here have already agreed he's spot on with most points :50:
     
  2. The The Hand

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    Thank * BBJ's not our manager.

    Taking money from Rupert * Murdoch to slate Lenny. * him.

    He's complaining we didn't field the players who could handle an Old Firm game - then he's saying we should have started with 19-yr-old Adam Matthews in place of our establish RB?

    "And where were Daniel Majstorovic and Kris Commons"

    Aye, that's exactly what I was asking myself the last time they played! :rolleyes:

    There's a far better analysis of what went wrong from Roy Aitken today:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14981566.stm

    BBJ was a good player for us, and I'm glad things are looking brighter for him healthwise. But he's a Murdoch employee now, and he doesn't half talk some pish. Tbh he can do wan as far as I'm concerned.
     
  3. MagicBallBhoy Gold Member Gold Member

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    im telling you were all feeding into this frenzy

    come tommorow the pressure on lenny and the team to get a result against ross county is gonna be electric and these players havent been doing well under pressure.

    i think we could lose lenny tommorow :(
     
  4. greengrocer

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    Where was he wrong in his critical point of view of the game?
    He has said in a "newspaper" what a majority of fans have said on here. Maybe not everyone agreed with the way it was worded but Hartson is spot on imo.
    We were dross and a lot of that was down to team selection.
     
  5. BelfastCelt88

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    Tbh I agree with him.
     
  6. MagicBallBhoy Gold Member Gold Member

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    for a start it was ridiculous to single out samaras and loovens for that game

    it was like he giving the usual punchbags there doing

    the result wasn't the fault off 2 players it was the fault of the whole team and the manager

    and commons ffs everycunt here was happy at him being dropped nobody here thought he deserved to be near the starting line up and mathews getting a shout is only cause he's welsh

    yeah i agree there was a lack of fight and we looked scared and the managers loyalty to samaras is incredible

    but who is he to attack our manager like that, he could have made his points without driving a stake into our manager
     
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  7. Coatbridgebhoy

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    Hartson is spot on - There are obviously a few on hear dont like people speaking the TRUTH about this team or certain players.
     
  8. Coatbridgebhoy

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    What a stupid post :rolleyes:
     
  9. The The Hand

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    Your analysis, on the other hand, is breathtaking in its insight. :50:
     
  10. Dirk_Diggler

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    A read it this morning and a have to say he got it pretty much bang on as usual, he speaks a lot of sense and not just about celtic he speaks like a neutral and tells the way it is without been biased or 1 sided, a just wish when lenny was going to get the likes of thommo and that in he should have looked to give big john a spot in the back room team, he would certainly drum it into to players, with whats required and they will be * scared.


    Hartson was pretty much spot on with his comments.
     
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    A lot of what he is was correct nothing wrong with it .
     
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    Absolutely, I'm glad he wrote this. Bet it wasn't an easy decision for him to write so negatively about Lenny and the bhoys, I for one appreciate he did because it's needing said.
     
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    It's tough to hear(or read in this case) but i think Big John has got it mostly right. Some of it may be over the top but that comes with him being as * off as the rest of us with that 2nd half display.
     
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    i actually think BBJ would be a great celtic manager.

    and he's 100% correct

    Sammy will get lenny the sack, all we do is play long ball to him, not really his fault but he heads and and runs like his hair is tied on to his shoelaces, its embarassing
     
  15. Coatbridgebhoy

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    If you have read the comments from your fellow celtic supporters there is about 95% agreeing with Hartson - Like i said there are a few on here dont like hearing the truth about our team.
     
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    There is a lot of truth in what BJ has said.
     
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    The only thing I don't agree with is him saying that Matthews should have played over Wilson. Mark is our first choice right back and Matthews will be the future of the RB position at Celtic.

    He is spot on with everything else. I've said it many times already, but I'm disgusted that Lennon went with Loovens at centre back in such a big game.
     
  18. doctor venglos

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    Agree with you.:50: Hartson is speaking the truth because I have been saying the same things basically all week. Mark Wilson should NOT have been playing because he is as slow as a week in jail, and couldn't tackle a pudding supper, fact. What good is experience if you ain't fucken good enough. Adam Matthews should have played because he has the speed and recovery powers to be able to deal with a speed merchant like Gregg Wylde.Stokes should have been playing, everybody knows that, even Ranger's fans probably too, but not Lennon it would seem, he seems to have his knife in Stokes for whatever spiteful reason best known to himself.Mulgrew should have been at centre half with Loovens, because Kelvin Wilson has been looking dodgy ever since he got here, and it was a good bet he was going to combust at Ibrox ( which he did ). Ki has hardly kicked a ball all season, and is notorious for dropping out of a physical game and disappearing altogether ( which he did on Sunday ), Davis has his number.

    It's a very good and truthful article by BBJ as you would expect from such a refreshingly honest gentleman, I get the feeling things between John and Lennon are not as cozy as they used to be.
     
  19. oranBhoy

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    why not hes as qualified for the job!

    on your second point i agree with you but its Lenny who will get himself the sack its him that keeps picking him...

    Well said BBJ
     
  20. Coatbridgebhoy

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    I thought i was the only one who doesnt rate Mark Wilson. He never tackles,gets beat for pace results to booting people now to which he gets booked. It`s going to take more than a sticking plaster to sort this team out. FIVE years this defence has need sorting and its still a shambles.