Greatest fans or most fickle?

magoo · Aug 21, 2011

Sorry Markeybhoy had to get the anger oot, Fecking raging here

foxybhoy67 · Aug 21, 2011

magoo said: ↑

I have faithfully followed Celtic for over 48yrs now, followed not only at home, but also abroad in European competions too, so please don't ever tell me, how I should be behaving, in my support for the team that I love and adore so passionately. When you become a Celtic supporter, you stay a Celtic supporter till the day you die, or at the very least, that is my perception of being graced with following Celtic. If there are supporters who want to moan, then let them do it, if they pay good money to watch Celtic, then they are entitled to moan, if they aren't happy with the way things are going with their team. And for anyone on here to insult such people, by telling them "to go and support, some other team" , should be hanging their heads in shame. Remember, we are Celtic, we don't suppress peoples opinion, or at least we shouldn't. As usual, I was there today, like many others on here, and yes, I am fecking raging, and entitled to be fecking raging, at what I saw. I saw a team today, with no heart, no passion, and definately little skill on display. The full team, should be ashamed of their performance today, every single one of them. There are way too many players, who are simply not good enough, to wear those beloved green and white hooped jerseys. I dont take any pleasure or enjoyment, out of saying what I am saying at this moment in time, but I feel totally justified in saying what I am saying. I read how overjoyed a lot of people on here were, when we signed Forster, people are entitled to express their opinion, and so am I, Forster in my opinion, is no better, infact I'd say he is worse than Zaluska, for a guy of 6ft 7ins tall, he is a feckin coward, who is * scared, * scared to go for a crossball, can't grasp a crossball, even when not under pressure, he can't distribute a ball, when dealing with a kick out, he can't communicate, he can't command his area, he lets himself get bullied, and believe me, if it continues, Jelavic, will wipe the floor with him. He doesn't have great agility, when going into a dive, he's cumbersome, he's awkward. Please *, get us a goalie. Majstorovic ! an excuse for a centre back, no pace, can't header a ball, has no sense of direction, when clearing a ball, can't position himself at set-pieces, can't figure out the positional sense of his team mates, irrespctive of, he is defending or attacking, and such, a slow thinker when thinking football. This guy will totally buckle against a half decent striker, even, one without superfast pace. Please *, add a centre half to that list too. Now for the strikers ! Sammi, I am not even going to there. Murphy, good bye mate. Stokes, no matter what anybody says, I know, he will never make a Celtic striker, ok, he's maybe not as bad as the first two, I've mentioned, but is he really, that deadly striker, that Celtic are actually requiring right now. My answer ! Naw, no chance, he isn't a worker, he isn't a team player, when, its not all glory for him, he just isn't interested. Aww aye, he will get us a few goals, here and there, but against, what class of team. He isn't exactly the top goalscorer, even in the * Scottish League, as some of us describe it. Naw, guys, a Celtic striker to me, was people, like Joe McBride, Stevie Chalmers, Dixie Deans, McAvennie, Larsson, Cadette, big Pierre, Hartson, etc. Add a striker to that list too * please. I could go on all night here, about that heartless mob the day, I am so fecking angry, and I am genuinely not getting personal with any of you on here. I know Peter Lawwell, and he is a genuine Celtic supporter, and I applaud the way he guides us financially, but surely, we have to see our team, not only winning here in Scotland, but totally dominating Scotland. OK, just now, we are down some 3 or 4 of our top players, but that can happen to any team, anytime, anywhere. Surely to * though, a Club as big as we are, we should be able to hump a team, that could only muster up, say 150/200 supporters to bring with them today. C'mon don't come out with the crap, it was a bad day, Celtic, shouldn't do bad days. We are simply signing players, some of who simply aren't good enough. Lets start weeding out now, and identify, players who are good enough, for us. Yes, we have a big pool of players, but be honest, how many of them excite you ? We shouldn't be moaning, your right, ............. we should be fecking demanding that teams like St. Johnstone don't come to Parkhead, and beat us
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best post ive read on here for a long time!

Markybhoy · Aug 21, 2011

Dion Telfer said: ↑

The defeat is not the issue but the shambolic display.

Had Celtic contested the game effectively and lost there wouldn’t be anywhere near as much uproar.
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I would hardly call it a 'shambolic' display. We were in control of practically the whole match and dominated possession of the ball. We just had no cutting edge in the final third.

foxybhoy67 · Aug 21, 2011

Padraig1916 said: ↑

1. Arrogance. St Johnston are an SPL team not Sunday league. Unfortunately the gulf in class is no longer there.
2. My views on slagging our players has been documented in this thread.
3. Arrogance again. The countries these teams play out of are ranked way above the Scottish league.

The score was bad but this thread was to highlight the OTT way some react.
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im sorry mate but you honestly need your head checked!

CarlosTe-wess · Aug 21, 2011

magoo said: ↑

I have faithfully followed Celtic for over 48yrs now, followed not only at home, but also abroad in European competions too, so please don't ever tell me, how I should be behaving, in my support for the team that I love and adore so passionately. When you become a Celtic supporter, you stay a Celtic supporter till the day you die, or at the very least, that is my perception of being graced with following Celtic. If there are supporters who want to moan, then let them do it, if they pay good money to watch Celtic, then they are entitled to moan, if they aren't happy with the way things are going with their team. And for anyone on here to insult such people, by telling them "to go and support, some other team" , should be hanging their heads in shame. Remember, we are Celtic, we don't suppress peoples opinion, or at least we shouldn't. As usual, I was there today, like many others on here, and yes, I am fecking raging, and entitled to be fecking raging, at what I saw. I saw a team today, with no heart, no passion, and definately little skill on display. The full team, should be ashamed of their performance today, every single one of them. There are way too many players, who are simply not good enough, to wear those beloved green and white hooped jerseys. I dont take any pleasure or enjoyment, out of saying what I am saying at this moment in time, but I feel totally justified in saying what I am saying. I read how overjoyed a lot of people on here were, when we signed Forster, people are entitled to express their opinion, and so am I, Forster in my opinion, is no better, infact I'd say he is worse than Zaluska, for a guy of 6ft 7ins tall, he is a feckin coward, who is * scared, * scared to go for a crossball, can't grasp a crossball, even when not under pressure, he can't distribute a ball, when dealing with a kick out, he can't communicate, he can't command his area, he lets himself get bullied, and believe me, if it continues, Jelavic, will wipe the floor with him. He doesn't have great agility, when going into a dive, he's cumbersome, he's awkward. Please *, get us a goalie. Majstorovic ! an excuse for a centre back, no pace, can't header a ball, has no sense of direction, when clearing a ball, can't position himself at set-pieces, can't figure out the positional sense of his team mates, irrespctive of, he is defending or attacking, and such, a slow thinker when thinking football. This guy will totally buckle against a half decent striker, even, one without superfast pace. Please *, add a centre half to that list too. Now for the strikers ! Sammi, I am not even going to there. Murphy, good bye mate. Stokes, no matter what anybody says, I know, he will never make a Celtic striker, ok, he's maybe not as bad as the first two, I've mentioned, but is he really, that deadly striker, that Celtic are actually requiring right now. My answer ! Naw, no chance, he isn't a worker, he isn't a team player, when, its not all glory for him, he just isn't interested. Aww aye, he will get us a few goals, here and there, but against, what class of team. He isn't exactly the top goalscorer, even in the * Scottish League, as some of us describe it. Naw, guys, a Celtic striker to me, was people, like Joe McBride, Stevie Chalmers, Dixie Deans, McAvennie, Larsson, Cadette, big Pierre, Hartson, etc. Add a striker to that list too * please. I could go on all night here, about that heartless mob the day, I am so fecking angry, and I am genuinely not getting personal with any of you on here. I know Peter Lawwell, and he is a genuine Celtic supporter, and I applaud the way he guides us financially, but surely, we have to see our team, not only winning here in Scotland, but totally dominating Scotland. OK, just now, we are down some 3 or 4 of our top players, but that can happen to any team, anytime, anywhere. Surely to * though, a Club as big as we are, we should be able to hump a team, that could only muster up, say 150/200 supporters to bring with them today. C'mon don't come out with the crap, it was a bad day, Celtic, shouldn't do bad days. We are simply signing players, some of who simply aren't good enough. Lets start weeding out now, and identify, players who are good enough, for us. Yes, we have a big pool of players, but be honest, how many of them excite you ? We shouldn't be moaning, your right, ............. we should be fecking demanding that teams like St. Johnstone don't come to Parkhead, and beat us
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Totally agree with this mate

Artur Boruc #1 · Aug 21, 2011

Mystic Penguin said: ↑

Well that is rubbish.
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Indeed, never heard so much rubbish in my life.

No one wants to be second best, it's just that some supporters are actually willing to support our manager and the players and be relatively patient about it whilst others revel in short-termism, knee * reactions, abuse and have the spoilt brat act perfected down to a tee.

Padraig1916 · Aug 21, 2011

Artur Boruc #1 said: ↑

Indeed, never heard so much rubbish in my life.

No one wants to be second best, it's just that some supporters are actually willing to support our manager and the players and be relatively patient about it whilst others revel in short-termism, knee * reactions, abuse and have the spoilt brat act perfected down to a tee.
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Agreed

foxybhoy67 · Aug 21, 2011

Artur Boruc #1 said: ↑

Indeed, never heard so much rubbish in my life.

No one wants to be second best, it's just that some supporters are actually willing to support our manager and the players and be relatively patient about it whilst others revel in short-termism, knee * reactions, abuse and have the spoilt brat act perfected down to a tee.
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we got beat at home by * st johnstone today mate! * wake up!

Artur Boruc #1 · Aug 21, 2011

foxybhoy67 said: ↑

we got beat at home by * st johnstone today mate! * wake up!
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I know, I was there!

pod · Aug 21, 2011

Artur Boruc #1 said: ↑

Indeed, never heard so much rubbish in my life.

No one wants to be second best, it's just that some supporters are actually willing to support our manager and the players and be relatively patient about it whilst others revel in short-termism, knee * reactions, abuse and have the spoilt brat act perfected down to a tee.
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We've not won the title for 3 years. How long is short term in your opinion?

Markybhoy · Aug 21, 2011

foxybhoy67 said: ↑

we got beat at home by * st johnstone today mate! * wake up!
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We do not have a divine right to win every single home game in the SPL. Obviously losing at home to St. Johnstone is a very poor result but every team in the world suffers a poor result at some point.

We're 4 games into our league campaign and we've won 3 of them. Hardly a crisis is it?

Mystic Penguin · Aug 21, 2011

Artur Boruc #1 said: ↑

Indeed, never heard so much rubbish in my life.

No one wants to be second best, it's just that some supporters are actually willing to support our manager and the players and be relatively patient about it whilst others revel in short-termism, knee * reactions, abuse and have the spoilt brat act perfected down to a tee.
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Summed it up well mate.

Artur Boruc #1 · Aug 21, 2011

pod said: ↑

We've not won the title for 3 years. How long is short term in your opinion?
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4 games into the league season is very short term, wouldn't you agree ?

pod · Aug 21, 2011

Artur Boruc #1 said: ↑

4 games into the league season is very short term, wouldn't you agree ?
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4 games into this season is early but it doesn't really answer my question. Imo the reaction to today goes a fair bit deeper than one result. It basically showed how little quality, even by SPL standards, we have.

foxybhoy67 · Aug 21, 2011

Markybhoy said: ↑

We do not have a divine right to win every single home game in the SPL. Obviously losing at home to St. Johnstone is a very poor result but every team in the world suffers a poor result at some point.

We're 4 games into our league campaign and we've won 3 of them. Hardly a crisis is it?
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never said it was a crisis mate but its not good enough!

i was ill watching that performance today.

there was only one team who had the real hunger and desire to win that game today, and it wasnt us!

and for me, that is really worrying!

Coatbridgebhoy · Aug 21, 2011

Wondered how long it would take before today's defeat was made the fault of the crowd.

Must be hard for a 33 y/o professional to master the basics against guys on a sixteenth of his salary when people in the stands are getting so, er...exasperated. I mean, who could work in those conditions?

Times like this you realise how many of us have it easy in our jobs.

Mystic Penguin · Aug 21, 2011

pod said: ↑

4 games into this season is early but it doesn't really answer my question. Imo the reaction to today goes a fair bit deeper than one result. It basically showed how little quality, even by SPL standards, we have.
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It was one game. Chill out.

foxybhoy67 · Aug 21, 2011

Coatbridgebhoy said: ↑

Wondered how long it would take before today's defeat was made the fault of the crowd.

Must be hard for a 33 y/o professional to master the basics against guys on a sixteenth of his salary when people in the stands are getting so, er...exasperated. I mean, who could work in those conditions?

Times like this you realise how many of us have it easy in our jobs.
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* exactly! well put mate!

pod · Aug 21, 2011

Mystic Penguin said: ↑

It was one game. Chill out.
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Mate, I've not made that many comments regarding today's game. All I am saying is that quite a few people found out today what I, and a few others, have known for a while. We are not even close to being as good as a lot of our fans think and the refusal to buy at a decent level will be costly. Certainly at European level.

I think that is why we are seeing some silly comments. It was not that much of a surprise to me. I already know that too many of our players are not good enough. Not saying I expected to lose today and I hope I dont sound arrogant but I'm also realistic.

Markybhoy · Aug 21, 2011

foxybhoy67 said: ↑

never said it was a crisis mate but its not good enough!

i was ill watching that performance today.

there was only one team who had the real hunger and desire to win that game today, and it wasnt us!

and for me, that is really worrying!
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I know you didn't say it was a crisis mate, I was just making the point.

I don't think we lost today because of a lack of hunger, I just think that our attacking players did not play well and the Maloney - Stokes partnership did not work out at all.

For the record, I am not a fan of playing Maloney up front.

I'm really not that worried about today's result tbh. These things happen. What is worrying me is the number of injuries we seem to be picking up and the players that are getting injured. Gary Hooper's injury means we have to rely on Samaras, Maloney and Murphy a bit more than I am comfortable with and if Charlie Mulgrew is injured now then we have serious problems at left-back.