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David Haye v Wladimir Klitschko - 02/07/2011

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by Heisenberg, Jun 17, 2011.

Discuss David Haye v Wladimir Klitschko - 02/07/2011 in the Other Sports area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. 10/4 Kemosabe Gold Member

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    I think Haye is going to KO Klitschko out in the early rounds. Too fast, too mobile and too explosive for a Klitschko who has been picking his fights for the last few years. He fights on the back foot now and trys to wear his opponents down and picking them off late on. Has a suspect chin and has been on the deck a few times in his career.

    This ploy wont work with Haye. Against Valuev everyone said the same thing. Haye would need to KO him early or he would be picked off by Valuev. The reverse happened. Haye not only had the better of the early fight, but looked more likely to KO Valuev late on.

    Fitness, a better chin, speed and a better, cleaner puncher should make Haye a victor within 5 rds.

    The only problem Haye may have is with the partisan crowd. Klitschko is a legend in Germany and refuses to fight anywhere else now. If the fight goes to points then Haye will probably need to KO him to win.
     
  2. Fiferbhoy1991

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    think the ukranian will scrape another boring points win. klitschko has a weak chin but then so does haye. and any professional boxer with as big a reach advantage as klitschko has should be able to stay out of trouble. if haye tries to just charge inside klitschko should be able to punish him.

    in saying that i really hope haye punches his puss in cos the klitschkos epitomise what i see as the slow, agonising death of heavyweight boxing
     
  3. Capital Bhoy

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    I think Wladimir will win on points,Haye definitely needs to knock him out.
     
  4. scotjcx

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    And Haye hasn't hand picked opponents? Ruiz and Harrison? He's just as guilty as Klitschko's.
     
  5. Liam Scales

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    I do think David Haye will just be too fast for Kitschko, he hasn't came up against that kind of speed that Haye has, who still has some amount of power in his punches.
     
  6. ourdaywillcome! Gold Member Gold Member

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    Ruslan Chagaev is really fast, not Haye fast mind you.

    Klitschko has been sparing with a really fast sparing partner. He should be ready for it.
     
  7. Heisenberg

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    klitschko ain't no mug, people are underestimating him on here and overestimating haye.
     
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    come on vlad !!!!
     
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    when is this? tomorrow?
     
  10. Heisenberg

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    saturday
     
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    Shows how far the heavyweight division has sunk when 2 numpties like this are box office material.

    Couldn't care less.
     
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    Goin watch a stream of it
     
  13. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    I don't think Haye could be classed as a numpty using any scale of heavyweight boxing.
     
  14. Heisenberg

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    You seriously overrate Haye. You actually think he'd have been a good contender to the likes of decent heavyweights of the past such as Evander Holyfield(in his prime), Tyson, Lewis, Bowe, Galota etc?
     
  15. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    How can I over rate him? He has been beaten once and that was over 7 years ago. A boxer is only as good as his record and Haye's is excellent, there is no denying it.

    He was the best in the cruiserweight division and by Saturday night we will see if he's good enough to be the best in the heavyweight division. I wouldn't put it past him.

    Rahman and McCall both beat Lewis, Tyson was beat numerous times including a couple against vast under dogs, Bowe beat Golota in 2 career defining fights because Golota was DQ'd twice.

    You can go through all those boxers records and pick flaws. Haye will never rack up defeats due to retirement but calling him a numpty, based on what I'm not sure, is incorrect.
     
  16. Heisenberg

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    The heavyweight division in those times was ridiculously strong, bowe, galota, holyfield, lewis, tyson etc were all great fighters. Tyson lost it a bit as he entered his 30s though but lewis, holyfield, bowe, moorer, foreman, were all contenders. Even galota even though through his own stupidity never became the heavyweight champion but he was always a contender.

    Haye has proved absoltuely zilch at heavyweight level so far apart from that pathetic excuse of a heavyweight title he won against the worst heavyweight champion there's ever been.

    No doubting haye is one of the best cruiserweights ever, if not the best, but he ain't no heavyweight all time great and never will be. Same goes with the Klitschkos, the division is too * for anyone to be an all time great. Some good young boxers coming through the ranks now though to spice it up soon i think.
     
  17. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    The problem is people look back with rose tinted glasses. Tyson, for example, is stupidly over rated by a lot of people. In 'his prime' he was beaten twice in 2 'biggest upsets of the year'.

    There is a clear void at the top of the division but has it ever been truelly great for a number of decades? I don't think it has.
     
  18. Heisenberg

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    I'm not overly impressed with tyson, or bowe, or galota but what I'm getting at is they were still good boxers who were always challenging for the titles.

    Holyfield(in his prime, don't know why he's still boxing) and lennox lewis were by far the best boxers of that generation and imo would've easily competed with legends like marciano and ali.

    The heavyweight division was class in the 90s from what i remember as a wee boy watching all the fights with my dad and brother lol.
     
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    :97: You're kidding right?
     
  20. Heisenberg

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    Tbh he is a bit overrated, but there's no doubting how good a boxer he was. He just wasn't on the same level as Holyfield or Lewis, and this was proven in the fights they had.