Peadophile ring smashed by cops

They'll end out in cushy prisons, with private rooms/showers...hoping for them to "get what's coming to them" in prison, just won't happen.

The question I ask, is why not?

Put them in ordinary prisons, without special privileges. Like would happen to me if I don't pay my Council Tax.

Why should we pay more in Taxes to provide them with specialist prisons, when prisons exist where we would all be sent, for far less crimes.

I really do wonder what makes a man do this to a child, I really cannot get my head around it ... I just can't see the motivation, like I can in other areas I don't agree with. This type of thing really baffles me & that annoys me, as there must be a reason why they do it, it's not exactly unheard of.

Makes my sick to my very bones, I'm soo * sorry for these children, why can't we do right for them? They're just kids...5 years old. 5 years old & going through that, how can they think it, never mind follow it through.

Burn them at the stake.

 

na mate ill apologise! this kind of thing gets me up for it.i respect what you beleive in but disagree as you do me. and i dont wanna fight anyway. probably get burst anyhoo

 

If you aren't on very strong medication either self medicated or by the doctor then i feel you need to.I have never read such utter nonsense.How in the * do we know what parents will abuse until they 1 have kids and 2 get caught?
The fact you are making these comments in this thread tells me that you dont think like a Celtic fan in fact you dont think like a normal human being.
So you think these things can be helped?So you think that things and by things i mean the perpetrators of these disgusting,vile and inhumane actions towards children shouldn't be given the death penalty? Usually i would agree about the death penalty but these things can never be helped and tbh i would rather our tax money be spent putting or trying to put the young life's back to a level where they might be able to cope with the rest of their life's,yes and i said "might".
Do us all a favour and go have a word with yourself as you are coming across as a total Neanderthal.

 

good post

 

Yeh I would feel the same I would be extremely *. But I still favour a solution that is not related to any form of manslaughter. I view them as mental ill people with a huge sexual disorder. Like I said there brain is failing to correct a sexual reponse that is not appropriate to children at all. When we see a child you feel love or care. Their brain is associating them with *. It's a mechanism that can be corrected. We should give these people a chance to seek help for this so that we can eliminate as many potential child abusers as possible. Unless they actually abuse a child then it's not a case of help but of punishment. After that again it's so important to learn these people that they have a sexual disorder, that their brain is failing to correct them and that they can fix that. They need the belief to change themselves.

Agree it's a dangerous grey area. But these are people with a sexual disorder that can be cured. There brain should be programmed again to correct sexual feelings towards children into feeling that is abnormal. That's how it works in a normal brain. However the real psychopaths are the danger here. Those who even fool therapists and others just to get their kicks. These people belong behind bars. But not at the cost of a child. So that's why pedophiles out of prison should be supervised all the time when they done their punishment. Personal freedom restricted to a level where it's impossible for them to abuse a child.

Oh yeh well I was wrong there plain and simple and Im not to big to say that. I believe that a brain is something that can be corrected when it's failing to filter out abnormalities. We should encourage pedophiles to come out with their disorder and seek help. If they remain isolated in fear of public attack the chance of them ever setting upon a child is way higher.
I believe a failure of brain association ( in this case sexual association with children ) can be normalized. The more pedophiles that seek therapy the more they can find effective methods to cure this association.

 

What the * has being a celtic fan got to do with anything?

Before you start calling anyone a Neanderthal...go and have a look at yourself!

The guy is stating scientific facts, along with others as to why these people commit such heinous acts against children.

Not one is sticking up for them, but if you were perhaps more educated you would not be giving stick to a guy for trying to understand the mind of a peadophile....if anything it takes more balls to go into the belly of the beast!

 

I agree mate...there are things and procedures than can be used in the treatment for sexual deviants...but only if it is them who wish to 'cure' themselves.

It is the repeat offenders and the violent ones who kill that are in the highest categorie of need to be found and detained.

Only thing is most predators are so smart...they can be anyone...for all we know there could be peadophiles part of the talkceltic family!

 

Scum should all be hung

 

Yeh fools abusing children should not be a reason to start fights here
I won't win the popularity contest by trying to find other solutions then killing them but I think it's possible. It's still a disorder and you can end the disorder by killing the person. Or you can end it by trying to fight the disorder. It's a matter of personal convinction. I go with the last after reading alot about the brain and how it can be modified in what it associates with.

Yeh it's a grey area. That's why we must let pedophiles who never done anything wrong come out with their disorder. Then they can seek help without getting beaten up or facing consequences in their life. Because the more cured the better.
Repeat offenders are people who should never have any personal freedom in which they can abuse a child. But first time offenders should be given a chance to cure that brain failure. Statisticly there are people with pedophiles feelings on talkceltic and anywhere you go. But most of them can correct themselves. It's the ones who cannot that are the real mental ill people. But still I think they deserve a chance to fix their disorder before they get killed.

 

I have to go have a look at myself?You know nothing off me,in fact you probably haven't read a post belonging to me before the one you just disregarded and spouted your own inane abusive attack.
As for stating scientific facts let me tell you to * with scientific facts when it comes to this filth.There is no cure,they never will be and you saying i should be more educated i wouldn't give this guy stick fills me with laughter when This filth ruined more than 30 young life's and how much have you and your "educated"and "scientific"friends mentioned them?They always get lost in the what to do about the evilness that commit the crimes.As for you not sticking up for them then you're sure not sticking up for the victims.
As for what it has to9 do with being a Celtic fan then let me tell you Celtic fans are the closest family orientated club with the most family orientated supporters in Europe if not the world and you ask me what it has do with being a Celtic fan!
Understanding the mind of a beast,easy,me me me me me me me me,there you go!Did that cost hundreds of thousands of our pounds to know?As for this belly of the beast thing you say no thanks ill stay within the belly of the people who act and live like people not hunters looking for the weakest of human beings and easiest to lure away and totally mess with them not just sexually but mentally and you talk about wanting to understand the beast!I just told you how they think.
And if you dont mind the next time you direct a post at me try not to be assuming nor digressive in your answer as i will put you down as someone thats not worth the time as throwing insults and fing and blinding isn't a discussion to me.
Lastly i think someone already asked you but you side stepped it,If that was your child they had got a hold off,had there way then sold them on to other things would you want him dead?No politics tactics here yes or no?

 

Obviously you do not read a lot of previous posts, but i have gladly admitted that if anyone were to molest my kids, or anyone involved with my family, i would go to new levels within myself to cause as much pain to the perpetraitor as humanly possible!

 

i don't believe you can cure these sick *.it would be like telling me i couldn't look at or touch another woman in my life.would never happen.they are sick,filthy,scummy * and the sooner we stop wasting money keeping them alive and protecting them the better

 

Christ, it really makes the blood boil reading that.

How anyone can get a kick out of doing that to kids is beyond me.

 

kneecappings and castration for them. sick *, would love to have ten minutes in a romm with one of them and a cricket bat. sick excuses of human beings

 

aye with razor blades stuck ti it

 

Sick Sick Sick

 

being a celtic fan has nothing to do with it. Who or what gives you the right to say someone else isnt a fan because they dont necessarily think like one?


sexually abused children generally exhibit certain indicators they may have been abused.


trouble walking/sitting, wanting to avoid a specific person,without an obvious reason, talking about or displaying sexual acts at an innapropriate age, running away from home. thats just some of them.

you will know if parents abuse, by the child's behaviour in social situations e.g school. or a teacher reports it or a tip off to the authroities.

can it be prevented? there are ways, by keeping re offenders locked up. prevention is better than cure, because abuse itself is cyclical thing. person a abuses person b, person b then abuses person c, though Im just being general here.

i never said it wasn't a crime, of course its a crime for gods sake. someone i know who worked with abusers, said even he wanted to lean across the table and whack them, i would and so would anyone else for that matter. Though i could never sit and listen to an abuser and what they've done. Any professional who can sit there and emotionally detach, whilst trying to eliminate the abuser from society gets my respect, its not an easy job its full of trauma, its a job with a predicted rate of high suicides.

trying to prevent abuse isnt easy, though we have to know why it happens, only then can we at least have some sort of idea what goes on, to protect children.

how the * do you think the authorities catch these plebs? sit on their * all day and just magically come across one? no they dont. Study these people for long enough (if you could even call them that) and find out how they think, feel and what their next move will be, then go in for the kill. These child abusers know what they can and cannot get away with, they're more often than not very smart and discreet, always one step ahead of the law, but they always get caught . If you don't know how they operate you will never know where they are, who their next victim is and when they could strike again, thats the whole point of forensic psychologists, collaborate with the police to determine the offenders next move, to prevent him/her from striking again.

this isnt a case of helping abusers them its a case of doing all you can to protect children from being attacked by these muppets, some abusers dont care and be should be kept locked up, some admit they have a problem, which is the first step. Whether they are allowed back into society is a different matter.


Ive said harsher laws should be in place.

Im coming across as a neanderthal? wow. I never knew trying to work out why something happens could be seen as 'neanderthal'. Thats a pretty stupid statement to make dont you think? Resorting to name calling only makes yourself lose credability. If you for some reason think im sympathetic toward them, then you should have a look at yourself.

More so, maybe you should direct your anger at the defence attorneys who defend such child abusers and try to get them off, pleading 'mental illness' or some bullshit like that.

 

castration? yes.

there was one case of abuse back in the 70's i think it was in america, im not going into the details as it even horrified me, but the young girls name was 'sybil'. traumatised for days after reading that case study..sick * and no one * reported it.

the mother by law should have been castrated imo. To * with her human rights.

reading that case study made my blood run cold.