Poppy Thread.

The last paragraph is really what should happen so we can avoid something like this ever again. I've not had a problem with them protesting - even if I think it is bordering on the extreme.

I still don't like the fact that they purposely used the club to get more attention out of this when a protest outside or in some other form would have been more appropriate.

 

celtic wont ban because the gb is the ones that bring the atomosphere

 

I'm not sure how many seats in 111, but I do know that not all of them are held by politico's. Many are there for the atmosphere and the football. Are those behind the protest, identifying themselves and entering into a dialogue with the club about the threat to ban individuals? or are they hiding behind the "section". Come on, every campaign needs leaders who are willing to step up to the mark. Are you willing to test the resolve of the club, or are you just hoping that the club will back down and forget it?

 

Iraq, Afghanistan, ex-Yugoslavia ... have all been better and more peaceful places to live in thank to the majority of these people who have sacrificed their own life to other people could have a better life.

I would like to call for some sense of reality and respect for people who sacrifice their live for a good course.

Instead we get a bunch of scottish teenageres and IRA-wannabees who knows nothing about war, sacrificies and repression. Often with a great sympathy for mass-murders as Che and middleeast terrorists, who dares to judge every britons and irishman who have fought for a better world far from home and families.

 

I'm sick to death of these ultra uni lefties shoving their political agenda in my face whenever I make a trip to CP, a couple of seasons ago they were shoving leaflets in my face demanding John Reid be sacked.
Who are these people that think it is in order for them to high jack Celtic Park to promote their political agenda.
I sincerely hope the club clean out this lot asap, we all agree the British Army has a lot to answer for but CP is not the place to make this type of protest, why don't they all * off to Downing St with their banners? Saturday had to be the most devastating OG ever scored at a time when we had the SFA by the short and curlies.
Absolutely * sickened by their behaviour and I never ever use this language when making a comment on here, so apologies, but my blood boils when I think of what we should be discussing and protesting about, i.e. Celtic Football Club and the poison that is running through the veins of the SFA.

 

Good post mate.

I don't post here often but Saturdays protest was disgusting and disgraceful. Nothing to do with Celtic or Football and your probably right. Scottish Teenage IRA wannabe's. If mandatory drafting into the Army happened in the UK these would be the lads who would all of a sudden develop illnesses that prevented them from serving...

Because its a football match thats why....

Or Celtic Football Club or its supporters

 

Yeah Danny that was some * atmosphere they brought on Saturday, disgraceful.

 

Do you honestly beleive that?You cant actually beleive that?

 

ive read every single comment on this more than once and i can see why people either support or are against what the gb did on saturday.im in a position to see both sides of the argument.my dad was a proud republican who wanted a united ireland,my brother john was in the army and served in northern ireland in the early 80s.he didnt want to be there but thats where he was posted.i know that plenty of irish lost their lives at the hands of british soldiers so i can see why the poppy is so offensive but many of our grndfathers and great grandfathers fought in 2 world wars so we could be free.if the gb and celtic had maybe got together to discuss this then maybe they could have came up with the idea of 2 different colour poppies,1 being in memory of the people who gave their lives in world wars and another for the modern day soldier, that way u could pay respects without it looking like you support occupation of ireland,iraq or afganistan or if you chose then you could wear both.all this has done is divide the celtic support at a time when we should all be sticking together against a system thats been shafting us for decades.hail hail

 

Good post that muaythaipostie^^

 

Are you for * real? All 3 of us were wearing them as a matter of fact. It was my pal that bought them. She lost her fiancee to fighting and had bought the poppy for her and her wee boy as a mark of respect. I did the same as he was a mate of mine. So are you honestly saying that we all brought that on ourselves? If that is the level that some of our fans are at where they think it's the poppy wearers fault for bringing on abuse then we have some idiotic supporters who are on a par with the worst kind of knuckle dragging hun. Absolutely disgraceful way of thinking. Such bitter bitter people.

I will continue to support the team through and through but i hope that kind of dark ages mentality get kicked out of Celtic park for good. I for one would be more than happy to see the back of such narrow minded idiots.

I'll never be ashamed to be a Celtic supporter but one thing i do feel is pity for those that have no purpose in their lives other than to cause offence and think they are somehow of higher importance than everyone because they take the moral high ground at every opportunity and will protest about everything and anything just to gain attention. If it has personally affected anyone then they have the right but i'd put money on a lot of them just jumping on the bandwagon.

All it really boils down to is the need for social inclusion. The bitter supporters need to feel socially accepted.So they will tag along with the protesters, agree with whatever they say, back it up at every turn but all it's really showing is they want to be with the "in crowd" for a little while. Sad really.

 

i agree. I appeciate the meaning behind it , because its a belief held by thousands of celtic fans, including meself. But displaying it on a banner , under the glare of tv cameramen , was wrong. It was inevitably gona grab the headlines.

Your man , gregory campbell even had his say , like he always does. Bitter man . Hes got no association with the old firm and has a pop when things like this crop up.

 

thanks mate.its time for both sides to see and respect each others arguments so we can draw a line under this and move on because all its doing is hurting celtic, the real reason were on this site.

 

excellent post; we dont all need to agree poltically, at the end of the day we all want the same thing, the one thing that unites us; Celtic the football club

the morons who abused you for wearing a poppy are no better than those nutters at the Daily Mail who see not wearing a poppy as treason; indeed, they are almost hun like

its why their "protest" cant be taken seriously, you cant on the one hand claim to be fighting for freedom of expression when the protest you make includes all celtic fans by using the word our. and its been proven on this site alone that the green brigade's opinions are not that of every celtic fan

still, i'd defend the GB's right to say what they did, just not inside the stadium during a game, simple really

 

telegraph link

 

Support and Statements For the Green Brigade.

Statement From The Celtic Supporters Trust

The AICSC (Association of Irish Celtic Supporters Clubs) Statement:

The CSA (Celtic Supporters Association) Statement:

ETims Statement

Celtic Underground Statement:

Most CSC's I speak to also support the group and against the poppy on the shirts.

That's only the minority though, right?

 

So the way to send a message to the club is by bringing public humiliation on us all..
Could they not have done this behind closed doors and saved the rest of the support the grief , and saved the club the embarrasment of having to apologise..

Amongst a support where fans are often blamed through guilt by association , it was wrong for a small group to express their views on behalf of anyone else..

 

I am really shocked and disappointed by how people are so bothered about what the media make of all this. We are NEVER portrayed well in the British media, and no amount of banning orders will change their bigoted opinion of us.

The bottom line is that we all love Celtic dearly, which is why we are now on page 41 in about 24 hours, and this whole thing has happened because of the decision to display the poppy on our shirt. Would there be an equal but opposite thread like this slating the club if we were not wearing it? I doubt it.

I really believe that most peoples main problem with this is how it makes us look to people who already hate us.

Who cares what they think.

 

How does the publicly humiliate "us all" exactly?

Do you care that much about what the media has to say about Celtic? because "we're the best supporters in the world and we do not want our great name dragged through the mud" We are by far from the best supporters in the world as what alot of folk on this board are led to believe.

The only views the group has displayed here is themselves and for anyone else who is against the poppy being forced upon Celtic shirts.

The display has not told anyone they cannot wear poppies, You would have realized this if you had read the statement on the Green brtigade Forum but like the majority and the media you don't need to read it because you know better than them why they done it right? It says

if you choose to wear one in memory of WWI & WWII then that is fine, but forcing it onto our clubs football tops knowing that it stands for well more than the world wars but for the dirty wars of Ireland, Iraq & Afghanistan stinks.

How dare Celtic come out and say what they have about the group, imagine a group of Celtic fans making politcal banners, not like John Reid is an ex-MP who helped make the decision about into one of these illegal wars and is currently in the House of Lords and has put a political image on our shirts.

 

i'll post here what i posted on the green brigade forum as it covers my opinions on the matter

i was wearing a poppy at parkhead 2 years ago, its a personal decision. reason i was wearing it was to remember grandparents who served in the war and are no longer with us. in saying that i haven't worn one since and doubt i will again due to the way they have been hi-jacked as a tool to drum up support for the current illegal wars in iraq and afghanistan. really can't understand how the majority of our society can't/won't see this, is it coincidence that its only been the last few years there has been such a fuss? i remember when i was younger it involved buying a poppy on the sunday and going to church or watching a rememberance service on tv from a battlefield in france or somewhere similar and remembering the sacrifice made during the 2 world wars. now we have nearly a month of everyone on the tv wearing their poppys, x factor songs for our "brave boys and girls" "heroicly fighting for our freedom" etc sorry but thats not rememberance for me thats media led patriotism to the level you see in america. its for those reasons i haven't worn a poppy recently and for that reason i support the groups stance on them being forced onto our shirts
the thing thats really dissapointed me, not surprised me mind you, is that the media have chosen to completely ignore the sentiment behind the protest ie protesting about it being forced onto the strip rather than against the poppy in general. why has there been no proper quotation of the statement on the issue stickied at the top of the green brigade forum (and has been copied and pasted on this site a few times) ? (definately a rhetorical question)