isnt our colours green and white?

Because theyre Welsh clubs im guessing? Same would happen if Merthyr or Newport Co. ever made it.. Still they'd put up a better fight than Carmarthen Town or TNS

 

Celtic is a scottish club with Irish roots, if it wasn't for many Irish immigrants living in Glasgow we would never have had glasgow celtic and I love our irish/scottish, I've met many Irish/Scots celtic supporters abroad, Alot of Irish folk I've met (not a parkhead) but abroad or in Scotland, Ireland anywhere really just ''like'' Celtic and look out for their results, I met a few Irish folk who would rather watch a premiership match like manchester united or liverpool etc than Celtic-Livi, or Celtic-Kille,

I'm not so fussed about the strip, I'm possibly in the minority but i actually quite like the black/green stripped one and I'll end up probably purchasing that one,

Celtic has strong Irish connections and that's great, I am Scottish but I feel celtic(keltic) and like Ireland, Scotland and even Wales and our culture from our orginal language, music and attitude should always be similar. I would like to see more green/white saltires at Celtic games but you can't win,

I love celtic having both Irish & Scottish links, but we are a Scottish club

 

A Scottish club for the Irish immigrant and there future generations.

 

A scottish club born by Irish immigrants to everyone -)

look at on here we have poles, serbs, croats all supporting the hoops..

 

Hmmm, why are people calling for us to join the english league if the same would happen to us??

 

BTG... I must say again some bad words towards you. Why are you always acting like that? Why are you always trying to say that Tims out of isles are something worse. And you're doing this especially when the person is from the eastern europe.

Being serb doesn't mean knowing less about Celtic than you.
No offence but you're the biggest chauvinist in this forum.

Shame

 

First off the argument is flawed. This is an away kit. In todays era we normally have three strips all of which cannot seriously be green and white only.

Next, there seems to be an attitude of someone who wants a bigger element of Scottishness in the shirt. But what do you recommend since our rivals play in blue?

Thirdly, there seems to an element of jealousy or annoyance at the amount or percieved amount of 'Irishness' in the jersey due to the addition of one colour.....yellow.

Next up is the fact our away kits have throughout recent years and even further have had yellow within the kits. Remember the old CR Smith sponsored yellow away kit in the 80's to the gold one of recent times?

So I have to ask, what is the problem? What is YOUR solution? And why should things be changed when the majority of our fans are happy with our selection of colours?

I seriously fail to see where the actual argument is when also noting the severe and ludicrously silly comments about sectarianism. Why was sectarianism brought into an argument when it clearly has no reason to be there? Why has 'Irishness' or things relating to 'Ireland' been linked or mentioned as pandering to sectarianism?

If all those questions are answered then we can have a proper debate.

 

No no, I dislike the way Serbia Celt is dismissing Suttons opinion and telling him to go and support another club.. He also suggested that Celtic is as much a Scottish club as it is Irish? Although we are all proud of our Irish roots, Celtic is a SCOTTISH club, based in Scotland, playing in the SPL, having many Scots and being founded there. Yes we all know of the Irish roots with Brother W, but somebody outside the UK & Ireland cant possibly say that by observation etc Celtic is Half Scottish/Half Irish..

 

Ok mate...sorry... now I'm pleased with your argumentation... now I understand what was on your mind. cheers

 

LiamSquire,

You're right, there is a lot of comment going on in this thread, but that goes to prove that the fans are divided on this one. I set out the reasons why I think the top could be seen as inflammatory quite clearly, maybe you missed those posts. I too think it is ludicrous that this is an issue but at the same time I can recognise how/why it has become one.

There is plenty of finger pointing going on with the sectarian debate and a "well they done x which was so much worse than y" attitude. All I was saying is that if we are going to take steps to rid the game of sectarianism then if one support finds it offensive (due to symbolism rather than intention) then just cut it out then the finger wagging can stop.

 

its a new kit give it chance it might grow on you eventually you might buy the shirt a ware it with pride

 

I understand where you are coming from but don't think its feasible. Where do you draw lines and where does it stop? Will Ireland be banned from flying the tricolour if some Scots or English or whoever find it offensive?

We have to remember that colours are not sectarian and if anyone has a problem with that, then they are bigots - people who are intolerant of other's views and opinions. We can't bow to bigot's, can we?

 

jeezo, girlies put the * pink handbags away lol!! if u dont like it? dnt buy it, simple as that!! i for one will be buying it!!

i dont give a * if the shirt is pink, royal rangers * blue or daffidal yellow!! its celtic, it makes me proud to put the jersey on and at the end of the day, the badge would get kissed when we lift the league!! who cares about colours, its not the colours we wear it for, its the meaning we wear it for

now shut the * up and less of the *, rant over,

HAIL HAIL!!

 

That is the difficult thing knowing where the line must be drawn. I strongly doubt that there will ever be an end to it on either side, at least not in my lifetime.

There is a big difference between a tricolour at an Ireland game than one on a celtic strip (or what could be seen as one).

To find something offensive does not make you a bigot. We are all offended by the swastika (i hope) but that doesn't make us bigots.

Agreed, we should not bow to bigots, quite the opposite.

 

Didn't think anyone was *... I thought it was quite a structured debate, by football forum standards at least!

 

I think we need to balance our scottish/irish roots....at this point in time i feel its almost exclusively irish... its like we ve been hijacked ....a lot of emotive words have crept in here..its almost as if were not allowed to mention the FACT that we are scottish ..Im happy to celebrate both I take the point that away strips can betray team colours these days and many are a fashion faux pas (in my opinion this one too)...and to answer the poster who talked of the boston celtics being only too happy to parade their irishness...they also make sure thier americaness is served by singing the u.s national anthem before each game..they see it as american first irish second...so why do we have a problem seeing ourselves as scottish first?...its obvious what nike and celtic are appealing to with this strip...as I say we should balance this and reflect our scottish heritage....I dont think this is an unreasonable request...we seem to have bought in to the image and allowed one half to be swamped by they other...are we happy to live in denial?.... are we in danger of losing an important part of our identity..by refusing to celebrate our scottish roots?

 

Well said.

 

Guys, my personal view point is a 50/50 Scots/Irish club. I know Celtic are Scottish with Irish roots and by all means the club should reflect that in many and most if not all ways, but how do we show this within our strips?

Not many fans would be happy to have the blue on our kits but I wouldn't mind if there was a small saltire on it somewhere. I suppose the teams jerseys have the blue of the Bank of Scotland logo on it!

How best could Celtic show their Scottishness through our kits? What are your ideas and opinions from a constructive viewpoint guys?

btw guys - I'm all for ensuring a split of the Scottishness / Irishness within our identity but I think we need to put to bed any issues of complaints of sectarianism through showing our Irish roots in our identity. As someone mentioned earlier, if we have something sectarian with our strip such as an offensive phrase then and only then can sectarianism come into play. You'd all hate it if English people called the use of the Saltire sectarian etc. It simply makes no sense.

I think this thread should have been more constructive from the start by asking for views on how the Scots roots can be displayed more effectively in our identity rather than berrating the use of colours and the Irish side of the identity.

 

Just out of interest guys - if the Bank of Scotland logo was green, do you think Rangers would have been happy with it on their kits?