Brown loses appeal

Taz · Mar 4, 2010

TimMalloyBhoy said: ↑

* great post mate, But I do hate to put a negative spin on it.

Every Celtic fan is unfortunately not a foot soldier for the cause, some of my own tim mates still claim I am paranoid likewise members of this forum. I'm not sure if that is the minority or the majority however I seriously think it may lean towards the latter.

WHat can we do about this?
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But that is the point. We do need naysayers on our own side. We need every side of an arguement to be discussed, debated, investigated. You don't get the truth from asking one question. You get it from asking hundreds of questions. Or even asking questions in different ways.

Not sure if you have seen the movie 'Blade Runner', but there are a number of scenes where Harrison Ford's character has to ask aa battery of questions in order to unearth the replicants he is hunting for. Or if you want a real life example, look at the way that David Frost kept picking away at Nixon til he got the answers he was after. And he didn't do it alone. Lots of research. Lots of help.

Don't get dispondant on those who are overly negative, because, in their way, they are helping us to craft the right question. It only takes the smallest crack.

boruclegend · Mar 4, 2010

TassieBhoy said: ↑

We could be flippant about this latest development, and just chalk it up, another questionable decision in a long line of them. Can simply shrug it off: 'Yep. Disgraceful. Typical, what else is new?'. Or we can see it for what it is. Read between the lines and see it for what it really is.

'Cry ''Havoc'', and let slip the dogs of war'.
.............................................................Julius Caesar A3, S1.

A week ago a 'source' within Celtic leaked it to the BBC that Celtic were unhappy about the way a number of key decisions had gone against the club. Next thing you know George Peat is releasing statements attacking this as being amongst other things, a cowardly act.

This is the same George Peat that survived the Airdrie collapse, that it is alleged was party to the Cadete affair that took down Jim Farry after a long & arduous case to prove that registration had been intentionally delayed, was part of the 'internal investigation' that cleared Farry of wrong doing, which was eventually shown to be incorrect. Ancient history, you say? *, even as recently as 2 years ago George Peat was the man who reportedly offered to have the Cup final delayed to benefit R****** who had built up a backlog of matches through no one's making but their own, and did so without having discussed this with any other member of the SFA board or consulting Queen of the South (the other Cup finalist). Never mind that it didn't eventuate. This was the guy who wanted it to happen.

Sunday. Brown is farcially 'sent off' for an incident the referee was unsighted for, and which at worst was a 50/50 handbags entanglement, where the other party in this, Kyle Laffable, hits the deck lke a shot and despite him saying he wasnt playing for anything, pictures show him turning towards the referee with his arms out. Laffable is not even cautioned for his part in the incident.

This is the same Kyle Laffable that could have ended Andy Hinkel's season (a season in which, IMO he has been Celtic's most consistant performer and a candidate for POTY) in the last Glasgow derby and the same Kyle Laffable that has once before been floored by a non-existant headbutt with Aberdeen's (& former Celt) Charlie Mulgrew. There is prior form here.

So Brown is given his marching orders. Celtic respond after the match that they intend to appeal the red card decision. THAT SAME DAY, Hunmeister Smith puts in his 2 pence worth, that Celtic's claims & criticisms are unfounded. Surprise, surprise.

Now this week, to place further emphasis that the SFA is wholly in support of the referee's decision, and despite evidence to the contrary, decide to uphold the original decision & reject the Celtic appeal. What astonishing haste the SFA has, when it so desires.

And where have the traditional 'meeja' been in all this; have they been in relentless pursuit, the very ethos of investigative journalism, or quietly whistling along to their favourite piece of pipe music?

Its about time that Celtic began to agitate & at last is beginning to flex some muscle. Whilst the manager is 'taking it on the chin', could it be that our club is looking to deflect attention? Or could it be that we are no longer content to remain in quiet dignity? With a board that contains a number of highly successful business types and former government ministers, we now have a few in our number who know a thing or 2 about backroom dealings. Could it be that Celtic is starting to shine the apotlight on the SFA?

With the clout that we now have, Celtic can keep the spotlight on that august body, the very definition of integrity, the SFA, and if held steadfast it will begin to reveal some of the underhand dealinga and masonic handshakes that have for so long gone without question or comment. A Motherwell spotlight will add to that growing light, and so might a Hibs spotlight, an Dons spotlight, and so on and so forth. It only takes a slight crack in a dam for it to be busted by all the ensuing pressure that is built up.

Batthe has been joined. Don't look for victory tomorrow, next week or next month. There will be advances & setbacks along the way, but make no mistake. Battle has been joined.

And we all have a part to play. Every Tim is a foot soldier in the war for truth. From those who live a stone's throw from Paradise, to those in every corner of the globe. Even those who have seen it all or feel little apathy for the cause have a role. In every pub, on every school yard, in every work place, at every match, on every forum page.

Don't take the eye off what is at stake. Something we have been craving, something even the likes of Billy McNeill has never seen, in as much as he admitted that so many favourable decisions have gone the way of 'that other team' for over 50 years of his involvement with Celtic, as a player, manager and spectator.

A completely level playing surface. Both on and off the park.
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Well said, exellent post i wanted to stand up and shout out loud

Partickbhoy · Mar 4, 2010

Chasing rainbows as per usual with the SFA........what we expect to get out of this I have no idea. Lets get on with winning games and less time on this, its distracting for the club as a whole and makes us look like a bunch of whiners whatever the reality.

Dear oh dear....the orangemen and masons have been here for a very, very long time and will not go away any time soon, we need to do our talking on the park and put them away like we used to....... .

Boom Stick · Mar 4, 2010

* decision on the day, bollox decision yet again by sfa,what a * sham

Markybhoy · Mar 4, 2010

It wasn't even the SFA that made the decison it was Dougie McDonald himself.

So basically he made a * of it on Sunday then sat down over the last few days and looked at it countless times on video then proceeded to make a * of it AGAIN.

Tremendous!

Conor1888 · Mar 4, 2010

fu*king joke

MarcoVanBeasten · Mar 4, 2010

Tassiebhoy...that post gave me a *.

shaunbhoy67 · Mar 4, 2010

he misses

falkirk away

st johnstone @ home

st mirren away

gm777 · Mar 4, 2010

TassieBhoy said: ↑

We could be flippant about this latest development, and just chalk it up, another questionable decision in a long line of them. Can simply shrug it off: 'Yep. Disgraceful. Typical, what else is new?'. Or we can see it for what it is. Read between the lines and see it for what it really is.

'Cry ''Havoc'', and let slip the dogs of war'.
.............................................................Julius Caesar A3, S1.

A week ago a 'source' within Celtic leaked it to the BBC that Celtic were unhappy about the way a number of key decisions had gone against the club. Next thing you know George Peat is releasing statements attacking this as being amongst other things, a cowardly act.

This is the same George Peat that survived the Airdrie collapse, that it is alleged was party to the Cadete affair that took down Jim Farry after a long & arduous case to prove that registration had been intentionally delayed, was part of the 'internal investigation' that cleared Farry of wrong doing, which was eventually shown to be incorrect. Ancient history, you say? *, even as recently as 2 years ago George Peat was the man who reportedly offered to have the Cup final delayed to benefit R****** who had built up a backlog of matches through no one's making but their own, and did so without having discussed this with any other member of the SFA board or consulting Queen of the South (the other Cup finalist). Never mind that it didn't eventuate. This was the guy who wanted it to happen.

Sunday. Brown is farcially 'sent off' for an incident the referee was unsighted for, and which at worst was a 50/50 handbags entanglement, where the other party in this, Kyle Laffable, hits the deck lke a shot and despite him saying he wasnt playing for anything, pictures show him turning towards the referee with his arms out. Laffable is not even cautioned for his part in the incident.

This is the same Kyle Laffable that could have ended Andy Hinkel's season (a season in which, IMO he has been Celtic's most consistant performer and a candidate for POTY) in the last Glasgow derby and the same Kyle Laffable that has once before been floored by a non-existant headbutt with Aberdeen's (& former Celt) Charlie Mulgrew. There is prior form here.

So Brown is given his marching orders. Celtic respond after the match that they intend to appeal the red card decision. THAT SAME DAY, Hunmeister Smith puts in his 2 pence worth, that Celtic's claims & criticisms are unfounded. Surprise, surprise.

Now this week, to place further emphasis that the SFA is wholly in support of the referee's decision, and despite evidence to the contrary, decide to uphold the original decision & reject the Celtic appeal. What astonishing haste the SFA has, when it so desires.

And where have the traditional 'meeja' been in all this; have they been in relentless pursuit, the very ethos of investigative journalism, or quietly whistling along to their favourite piece of pipe music?

Its about time that Celtic began to agitate & at last is beginning to flex some muscle. Whilst the manager is 'taking it on the chin', could it be that our club is looking to deflect attention? Or could it be that we are no longer content to remain in quiet dignity? With a board that contains a number of highly successful business types and former government ministers, we now have a few in our number who know a thing or 2 about backroom dealings. Could it be that Celtic is starting to shine the apotlight on the SFA?

With the clout that we now have, Celtic can keep the spotlight on that august body, the very definition of integrity, the SFA, and if held steadfast it will begin to reveal some of the underhand dealinga and masonic handshakes that have for so long gone without question or comment. A Motherwell spotlight will add to that growing light, and so might a Hibs spotlight, an Dons spotlight, and so on and so forth. It only takes a slight crack in a dam for it to be busted by all the ensuing pressure that is built up.

Batthe has been joined. Don't look for victory tomorrow, next week or next month. There will be advances & setbacks along the way, but make no mistake. Battle has been joined.

And we all have a part to play. Every Tim is a foot soldier in the war for truth. From those who live a stone's throw from Paradise, to those in every corner of the globe. Even those who have seen it all or feel little apathy for the cause have a role. In every pub, on every school yard, in every work place, at every match, on every forum page.

Don't take the eye off what is at stake. Something we have been craving, something even the likes of Billy McNeill has never seen, in as much as he admitted that so many favourable decisions have gone the way of 'that other team' for over 50 years of his involvement with Celtic, as a player, manager and spectator.

A completely level playing surface. Both on and off the park.
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Great post, you should be celtic board and challeging the scum sfa

Airdrie Onion · Mar 4, 2010

Partickbhoy said: ↑

Chasing rainbows as per usual with the SFA........what we expect to get out of this I have no idea. Lets get on with winning games and less time on this, its distracting for the club as a whole and makes us look like a bunch of whiners whatever the reality.

Dear oh dear....the orangemen and masons have been here for a very, very long time and will not go away any time soon, we need to do our talking on the park and put them away like we used to....... .
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That's EXACTLY the point some of us are making. We're not being ALLOWED to. Won't change even if we improve a thousandfold.

I'm afraid we have to say

'We're mad as * and we're just not gonna take this * any more.'

Seriously. It's that bad.No more lying down.

TimMalloyBhoy · Mar 4, 2010

TassieBhoy said: ↑

But that is the point. We do need naysayers on our own side. We need every side of an arguement to be discussed, debated, investigated. You don't get the truth from asking one question. You get it from asking hundreds of questions. Or even asking questions in different ways.

Not sure if you have seen the movie 'Blade Runner', but there are a number of scenes where Harrison Ford's character has to ask aa battery of questions in order to unearth the replicants he is hunting for. Or if you want a real life example, look at the way that David Frost kept picking away at Nixon til he got the answers he was after. And he didn't do it alone. Lots of research. Lots of help.

Don't get dispondant on those who are overly negative, because, in their way, they are helping us to craft the right question. It only takes the smallest crack.
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Yeah brilliant mate. * brilliant.

daschoo · Mar 4, 2010

kennydal said: ↑

Someone must explain the refs actions on Sunday and also explain why after they have reviewed it, it still stands.
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it was never reviewed though. they ask the ref if he's happy with his decision and if he decides he is then there's no appeal.

how is that an appeal process?
we've had a complaint that you * up, did you?
no.
glad you've cleared that up, matter closed.

madtim · Mar 4, 2010

Markybhoy99 said: ↑

The SFA were NEVER going to over-turn this red card.

Craig Thomson openly admitted he got big decisions wrong in the first Old Firm game.
TV evidence showed that Steve Conroy got two big decisions wrong in the second one.
If the SFA had over-turned this red card they would have been admitting the ref had got a major decision wrong, at Celtic's expense, for the third Old Firm game in a row.

They were NEVER going to allow that to happen. They want this whole sorry episode to be forgotten about and swept under the carpet as quickly and as painlessly as possible. I wonder why?
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Just about sums up the whole sorry affair.

We will get some dodgy decisions now that it is too late, and we will be hearing how these things even out over a season.

mmmikey · Mar 4, 2010

So is this referee the only person on earth who has taken a look at the video evidence and has honestly said "Yeah I got that one spot on really!"

If that's the case WITH the benefit of video technology - this guy should not be refereeing full stop.

Coatbridgebhoy · Mar 4, 2010

Just drove past Hampden - 2 Swastika Flags flying ....No it`s not 1939 its 2010

Josef Goeballs would have a hard time getting an interview for this corrupt bunch.

P R D · Mar 4, 2010

As if anything different could ever have happened.

The system is like having the arresting officer sit as your judge. It is NOT impartial and Brown has not been given a fair hearing by the system itself. I hope he takes the SFA to court over loss of earnings, we'd see their sham system come crumbling down.

pkerr2602 · Mar 4, 2010

The SFA are wanks, i said on sunday night it was time to leave this league and watch them rot in *. Its time we made a stand on this issue. Sure celtic fans know we are playing * just now but that is not the reason for the out-pouring on this issue. The facts are there for everyone to see,call it what you want bad refs, hidden agendas, conspiracy theories etc. The SFA have done nothing to address this issue not just for our club but for most of the teams in the league. They sit there making money off the back of us celtic surpporters and do * all. The SPL is * dead on its feet. Celtic could put the final nail in the coffen by playing elsewhere and i for one would back this move. LET THE * ROT IN *!!!!

Bratfurdbhoy1 · Mar 5, 2010

Knew it would happen!

I knew they would not overall that decison on Sunday- but it's time we started making some noise and stop rolling over like * to the SFA- so that bit gets a big thumbs up from me!!!

LB · Mar 5, 2010

Its Pathetic , it really is

TAB · Mar 5, 2010

Still can't over this, even though I was expecting it. Shocking.

Brown loses appeal

Taz Blind Justice Gold Member News Writer