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Get Behind The Bhoys!!

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  1. jiko

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    Mowbray changed the team around when he took over at WBA.. They were a team that were built to try and avoid the drop under Bryan Robson so Mowbray went with his attacking philosophy and it won him the championship.. There's a big difference between going from one league where you challenge for a title and then another league where your immediate goal is to stave off relegation... He got WBA relegated and that virtually same team still looks good enough to get them straight back up..

    Mowbray finished third in the SPL.. Apart from the Hearts team that finished 2nd above Ecks team , there isn't really much more a manager can achieve at an SPL club.. He left the Hibs in good hands and in less than a season under John Collins they won the League cup..

    That's two clubs that are benefitting from the groundwork that he put in place , long after he has gone.. But then maybe he doersn't deserve any credit for that and shouldn't only be judged on what he's done for Celtic..

    It really depends on each persons agenda as to whether or not they back him... You obviously don't..
     
  2. holy pope

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    Mowbray is a manager when he was a player he was a good defender , htf cant he set up a * defence now as a manager and dont start this he needs better players and own players in , he had better players at west brom and failed there and he will fail here , he is not good enough and it is not good enough for us to be 10 points behind the huns ,and not being able to win a * game at 4.2 up , ended up 4.4 really should have been 6.4 Dons they deserved it ,
     
  3. nolo67

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    Gotta keep the faith

    We have started investing in young players so you have to see if we can fulfill the obvious potential we have, sure we need to sort our defence but attracting good players to these shores so we have to get on with what we have time being! Mr mowbry is getting it tight enough from the media mob without "supporters" of our great club giving him it also! Keep the faith!! Hail hail!!
     
  4. jiko

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    Puting "honestly" in your post doesn't make it a fact..
    It's your honest opinion and nothing more.. My opinion is that there isn't a timescale put on his tenure and it may well be that he's given a 2nd season regardless of this years success or lack of it..
    On another forum someone said after the old firm game "Honestly mate , we didn't deserve to beat them".. when the majority of us felt we did deserve to beat them..

    Fans on here are "honestly" conceding the title to the huns but that doesn't mean it's over , It's all just opinion and when it comes down to the big decisions , not one of us has a clue when or how TM's tenure at Celtic will finish.. That's why people saying he will be gone if he doesn't do this , or he has to go now because he's inept , are wasting their opinion as it's nothing more than a guess..
     
  5. jiko

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    It doesn't look good , especially when he was a defender and there's plenty reasons if people look for them to give it even tighter to TM throughout the season..
    Apart from the catalogue of injuries I can't defend him but I can still be patient to see if he can turn it around , and not give us another false dawn either , but properly start to get a team playing the way it should from goalkeeper to strikers.. TM can't take the blame for Braffheids handball , he can't take the blame for Mcgeady conceding posession and then O'Dea puting the ball out for a corner when he could have tackled and taken the ball away from goal which kept us pinned back and the 4th goal came.. I don't see a problem with Samaras coming on either when he was the ideal guy to stretch the oppositions defence and take the ball out wide , and if need be defend set pieces.. We didn't look setup to be chasing a 5th goal but we just didn't know how to see the game out properly and it always happens with us going back to the Martin O'Neil final season team that if you don't close out games , teams will come back at you and by the end of the game you are hanging on..
    Apparently he'll have a close to full strength defence for Dundee Utd.. Progress is required to lift the gloom..
     
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    Never said it was a fact, but considering that the majority want Mugga out, a lot of fans won't renew their season ticket with him still at the helm, and if this is the case the board will no doubt get shot of him.
     
  7. holy pope

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    Get Behind The Bhoys!! will the board refund us the fans then for paying to watch that * shower of * will they * instead they will bleed us dry again next season , we are paying there wages the gaffer aswell the players have no passion and desire and that comes from the manager.

    It's all good saying he wants to play nice passing football and so that's fantastic but you need a balance Tony has never found this even his west brom side was exactly the same played good footy never took there chances and had one of the worst defences in the league at West brom that might have been ok there is no pressure on winning the league and cups , here that aint a good enough excuse we are expected to win and 2nd best is not good enough full stop , Tony needs to go before it gets any worse ,
     
  8. holy pope

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    I see a problem when he brings on Sammy for extra height to defend corners and free kicks at 4.2 up , thats a bad excuse why should we be looking to defend at 4.2 up ? why cant we just keep playing at the same pace and tempo .

    you wont see Fergie doing this with Man utd winning 4.2 they go for the throat and kill the game off we should be able to do the same , and dont give me the excuse its cause they have better players , this was * Aberdeen not Ac Milan or Arsenal etc , thats not good enough ,
     
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    Seems to be a split between its not the manager its the team and its the managers fault not the team.

    Sorry but generally its up to the gaffer to lead and sort out the problems.....I won't blame the team as I am behind all of them (bar one).

    So who do I blame then? Can't touch TM as he's got sunbeams flying out his * for some....maybe it's the grounds keeper........whit about the ball boys?

    Tell you what, as per most modern organizations/business's and teams the buck stops with the boss-man, you don't round on the workforce/team, and until I see proof or evidence he can lead/motivate/manage and has some passion to win then I will continue to criticize him and him alone.

    He picks the team.

    He makes the signings. (Well we would hope so).

    He chooses the tactics.

    Ii.e He is in the position of responsibility and he therefore is entitled to take the brunt of the blame.

    Since when does criticizing the manager equate to not being loyal or not supporting the team? Sorry but that's a cop out.....and that's a record that's being played to death, wave yer flag and shout hail hail, fingers in ears.

    I am 100% loyal and will never stop supporting my team, but the manager has to get his finger and show some passion and balls.
     
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    Samaras didn't cost us the game in any way.. He spent as much time in their half as in ours and the reason he would have played would be to stretch play.. His height for the defensive side of it wouldn't have been the main reason..

    We were comfortable at 3-2 up , we were virtually out of sight at 4-2 and the game totally changed because of Braffheid... I said on the night of the game it's things like that which turn fans against players.. He is more culpable than anyone else for that and then we are defending a 1 goal lead and the game is on a knife edge.. It's a sore one to take in isolation , it's even more frustrating when you add it to the other games we've failed to see out and thats why Im saying it's hard to defend the manager but I'd like to think that's us at rock bottom right now and the progress is going to start on Saturday.. It needs to start soon to give fans any hope for the remainder of this season , and Im confident we will see progress with TM as manager..
     
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    [​IMG]he has to go
     
  12. holy pope

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    I never said it was Sammy's fault , Tony said on the radio he came on for his height ,the managers words not mine ,
     
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    Are you having a laugh with with that last bit.You must be upset quite a lot in life if that is your philosophy
    there are too many unrealistic spoilt supporters on here:38:
     
  14. Partickbhoy

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    Well people are frustrated and * off...what you see above is what is always going to happen.

    You can name call fellow supporters or you can understand why they are angry. Ok swearing and losing it doesn't always help.....but it certainly helps get the guy who's raging...sometimes ye need tae get it off yer chest.

    If you can't vent here........where can you go? Aye we all want the same thing but not everyone wears a happy happy fun and sunshine badge........after all we are playing like a bunch of jessies.....while TM dozes on the sideline with the big sad face on.
     
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    unrealistic spoilt supporters, What the * you talking about this is the spl its between us and Rangers winning the league 2nd place is not good enough we expect to win the league full stop .
     
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    We are not going to win the league every season, it's unrealistic to think that we will, therefore if we sack every manager that doesn't win us the league we'll be going through a fair few managers.

    All fans are disappointed at the performances this season, the only difference is some are willing to show a little bit more patience than others, at the end of the day we all want what's best for Celtic.

    This thread is about getting behind the bhoys, regardless of whether you want TM here or gone it's now when things aren't going well that the team need our support more than ever, it's time we became the 12th man again. If you think the season is already over what harm will it do to get behind the bhoys for the rest of the season?

    No-one on here wants to see Celtic so far behind them, so now is the time to show them that despite how bad things are going we will still give our all in support of our team. People have no right to complain about players not giving their all if they as supporters can't give their all as well, I don't mean about the amount of money you spend, but if you already have your season ticket and travel costs aren't an issue then give the bhoys some vocal support, it might just spur the players on. If people say TM can't get the best out of the players then surely the supporters should do their upmost to get them to go that little bit extra for us?

    Everyone is entitled to voice their opinion at the games, but being silent and/or booing isn't helping us so why not try supporting the bhoys for a change, supporting isn't just about turning up it's about giving encouragement when things aren't working out as well as when it is.

    This isn't ignoring the problems we have, I'll vent my frustrations after the games but during the games the bhoys need us, are you willing to give that support in times of difficulty as well as when we're winning?
     
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    :50:We are not far away from a good team. We must be the unluckest team in britain when you look at the results over the season. Have a good think back over the season and think how many games we would have won if the breaks had went our way. Keep the faith our luck will change.
     
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    Good post Danny Ghirl, I'm with the team and agree we should show them all our support 100%.

    However I will not vocally support TM, and if I could get to the games I would let him know....vocally.
     
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    unluckest my * we cant defend at all thats our problem , we was lucky v Hearts Loovens clear hand ball set the ball up 4 his goal , Fortune off side so dont blame it all on being unlucky in that case portsmouth must be unlucky ,

    A good team exactly who ? 4 players are on loan and if thats what Tony is going to do to build a team they thats no good , out of them 4 realistically only Landry will be staying , Karma fee would be too much for us , Keano will not be here as he is too good for us and the league , and Heid will be away back to Germany or Holland ,
     
  20. Jamesy Bhoy 7

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    we expect it yet so do rangers , we dont have a divine right to win the spl mate after all they won it last year . For me next year is the year to judge mogga when he's got his OWN team for a whole season . If this form continues into next season with his own players that he chose then by all means sack him but only if that happens , i for one think next year will be a good one:celt_2: