THIS IS WHY WE ARE 'PARANOID'!

I wonder if this is now the longest thread in TC history?

 

Cant see it beating the Tamas thread that was the longest pointless thread ever .

 

I agree alot of the people who go on these don't really know how to put the case forward and end up getting torn apart by the phone in hosts.

 

Traynor just disnae like the truth does he? * *!

 

I never said that it was sour grapes. The point of the post was to reply to the comments of others, who said that the other SPL clubs should join with Celtic in condemning the bias being shown in favour of Rangers. IMO the response would be" we never heard any of this crap when you were winning strange that it all should be happening when you're not"

Anyway, I hope that your cold gets better!

 

'Ever had the feeling you've been cheated?' John Lydon asked rhetorically at the end of that dismal, final * Pistols show at Winterland. It was an exasperated realisation that it was the end. The dead horse could no longer be flogged. Disillusioned & dispirited, not just fractured but crushed. It was too late to be salvaged. Too late for their fans, and too late for those involved.

I can only speculate as to Lydon's feelings that January night. 'How the * did we get here? What ill-fate consigned us to this juncture? Is it me? Did I fall asleep and wake up amidst this maelstrom? Where did it all go wrong? Why wasn't enough done to stop it?'.

Maybe it was simply the natural conclusion of a nihilistic experiment. Or maybe there is a lesson to be learnt here.

There are machinations in motion and an agenda has been set. When the 'Murray' iceberg struck H.M.S. R******, there was a masonic SOS emitted and the response equally unsurprising; questionable decisions, glowing praise and deflected attention... None of which is new, of course, except maybe for the scale of the rescue underway. It had to be that way - it is the 'establishment's' flagship that had signalled distress, after all. It could almost be described as admirable, the manner for which they have rallied to the call. Almost.

It would be almost admirable were it not for that small notion of fair play, that nagging doubt of equality, of impartiality. What price integrity, but for the sheer stench of hypocracy? This is the very thing that have been continuously comprimised. Inch by vile column inch.

In football parlance, imagine one goal mouth being widened by an inch at one end, shortened at the other by the same. Noone notices, so they get away with it. The next week the same thing, and so on & so forth. An inch becomes a foot becomes a yard. After a while there is a feeling that something is not quite right, what can you do - the guy with the ruler says it is fair, that it must only be an illusion. Sound familiar?

Makes you physically feel like wanting to dry retch. Me too. Were it not for the fact that it all seems so inevitable, the sense of resigned apathy. I wish that we could focus solely on competition, rather than divert attention onto competance. But we cannot. Ever vigilant we must be, ever vigilant we must remain.

Far too often this season, competition between the 22 players on the park has been sullied by the level of competance on display by the men in black. Evidence continues to mount, circumstantial and actual, along with growing suspicions outwith our own, that R****** have benefited from a helping hand along the way.

We have come to the realization of the extent of the what it is that confronts, confounds, surrounds. This goes beyond simple bias of the odd referee. We can recognise those who like it this way; Peat, Traynor, Cowan, to name but a few. Men who are supposed to be impartial, yet clearly are not, and the efforts it will take to extract these. They answered their SOS call. Though fair means and foul, they will ensure R****** recovery.

I am sure I do not need to remind anyone that yesterday was St. Patrick's Day. A day of great significance to so many within the Celtic community. Our community. From Brisbane to Boston our songs sung, our stories told, our legends relived, rekindle old friendships and new ones made.

For those of Irish extraction this day is ours. Our * swell with ancestorial pride. Even those who have the most tenuious of links with the Emerald Isle, this day is theirs. On this day many who have never so much as stepped foot on Irish soil will celebrate akin to someone who has never strayed more than a few miles from the Shannon. Celebrate, through ancient forefathers that left Ireland, by force, choice or necessity, yet with each passing generation a pride remains, that finds their voice, as rich and as diverse as the world in which they inhabit, and proclaim: 'I am Irish, and I am proud'.

This is OUR community. Scottish and Irish alike, this concept of community is part of what founded our beloved club, extending itself to a section within Glasgow society that were not getting a fair shake based on heritage or religion, struggled in the lowest socio-economic climate. Too many children went hungry, simple medicines often too difficult to acquire, and long winters far longer for lack of heat to warm the bones.

Admist this our football club rose like a phoenix, and under the guidance of men like Maley, it become a source of something more than just a funding organisation for soup kitchens or hostels. It gave a disinfranchised community something to rally around and above all, it gave a sense of pride every day, not just an annual festivity. That same surge of pride that resonates within us when we sing 'we are Celtic supporters, faithful through and through, and over and over, we will follow you'. Pride.

Like Seville. Listening to the fans within the stadium sing those lines, echoed to the streets of the city, to so many homes throughout Scotland and Ireland, to the thousands of pubs across the globe. We may have lost the match, but that day will forever be ours, and not even Porto can take that away. That day remains one of the defining moments of my life.

The successes built upon the legacy of such times have brought fame, wealth and prominance to our football club, and by extension to us, as supporters. Even to those largely ignorant of Scottish football, across the globe the sight of a Hooped jersey is famous beyond merely football, but as a cornerstone of community, so often synonymous with those of Irish extraction.

Today, a new challenge lies ahead, and just as those within the 'establishment' have rallied around the cause of 'their' club, so must we rally around not just the Celtic cause, but the cause for change throughout the national game, for those who govern will not change unless they are forced to.

Its time to take a wrecking ball to the whole of Scottish football, and from the ground up it has to be rebuilt. Without fear nor favour. Upon trust and integrity. With balance and without partisanship. Upon open principles and accountability. From the way kids are taught & their talent nurtured, the governance of professional and * alike, the battle of Hampden starts here.

'Woah', I hear you say, 'thats a bit much, isn't it?'. Well, no, It isn't. It is essential. Scottish Football in its current format is cancerous, and is dying a slow death. It requires a massive overhaul, and it will be 20 years before all of the benefits are fully felt.

20 years. That's an entire generation. Nobody wants to contemplate that, but that is what will be needed to ensure Scottish Football as a viable entity for the 21st century and beyond.

So powerful and prominant is the attention given to football south of the border that Scottish kids are more often to be seen wearing Man U or Liverpool colours as they are those of Hibs or Dundee United, and this shift will only grow in the current environment. Scottish Football is fast becoming an irrelevant backwater, even here in Scotland.

This goes beyond simple 'Celtic-mindedness'. Put aside the efforts of Celtic this season and think of where we are, not as a club but as a community, and it is time to extend an invitation of community to all those that seek a fair shout and a say in how the game progresses from here.

Nor is this 'Celtic Paranoia' run amok, nor am not implying that Celtic would have won the league on merit alone this season. There are all manner of speculation and mounting rumours swirling around Parkhead. (Please forgive my licence here, as I whittle of few of these off, but do not get distracted. These are not the point of this article.) Over the past few weeks I have heard tell of further disruptions, such as Lennon being brought back into the 1st team fold, falling out with a member of the current coaching set up and then being moved out again. Of Mowbray's family struggling to settle, of meetings between the CE & the manager, of exit strategies being discussed. All of which is pure conjecture. I do not wish to lay creedance to any of these, or testify as to the truth of these, if any. Rather, simply trying to highlight the diversity of which that have been doing the rounds.

What is certain is that Celtic have underperformed. We have seen a significant turnover of playing staff, strange tactics, odd substitutions and at times a reckless, almost cavalier approach to the game. All have contributed, but all of this means nothing. Nothing. Not a single thing, if just one simple factor was different - the inability to cobble together a run of results, by hook or by crook.The failure to be able to adjust, to innovate, to adapt, to overcome, has been what as cost Celtic.

This is an opportunity, that cannot be forsaken, to irrevocably change the nature of Scottish Football, long overdue at a time when those who have dictated terms for so long, have no choice but to listen. To press the issue, to find a future and to save the soul of the Scottish game. This is the time to discuss to the cause of genuine grievance, and no longer rubbish such suggestions as mere 'Celtic Paranoia'.

These are the first days of this new movement. These are the days for radical ideas and debate, to find the way. I have ideas how this can be done, as I am sure you all do, as do football fans as a whole, of to act in the collective best interests. There is no one way to do this, no 'sat nav' to guide us on the way. Time to examine the map & chart a new course.

This is more than a tale of 2 communities. This is a wake up call, before it is too late.

Hail, Hail, my friends, hail, hail.

 

We have been the ' victim ' of the MIB this year, there can be no doubt of that at all, and the ' blue tinted ' refs have done everything in their power to ensure Rangers win 2IAR and make their club model a ' going concern ' for any interested business suitor.

But on the other hand we have been mismanaged this year and now find ourselves out of the league by the beginning of March which is not acceptable to the supporters of our club. The last Old Firm game at Ibrox I can't honestly remember us getting a single shot in at MacGregor's goal in the second half, which is an indictment of Mowbray/Venus/ and Grant's style of management and coaching.

We deserve better than this.

 

The Drunk Thread hands down


We're all just alcoholics at heart

 

I'm sorry, am I missing something here?

Thankyou for the well wishes on my cold by the way

 

yes.

 

quite a few times recently i've heard rangers fans saying it must be nonsense because we get major decisions go for us in old firm games. the examples most commonly used are scott mcdonald being offside in the 3-2 game (it was marginal but probably just about off), david robertson getting a goal wrongly dissallowed for offside in a 3-3 game at ibrox and roy aitken taking a rangers throw to set up joe millers goal in the 89 cup final.
does the fact that they have to go back over 20 years and still not equal the number of major decisions that have gone against us in those games this season not tell its own story?

 

As many people do say, Celtic are playing bad. And that is obviously a contributing factor, but JamieBhoy67 is still right in what he is saying, I live in Canada (obviously by my user name) and stereotypically like many Canadians I play hockey. In the NHL (National Hockey League, professional league) video replay IS ALLOWED. I find that in 99% of the games, this makes all the difference, hockey is a game that is very quickly paced and can be very hard to follow. almost every game video replay is used to fix, or prove a call right and without it, ALOT of mistakes would be made. I play recreational hockey, an obviously a town league couldn't afford something like video replay, almost every game something is wrongly called in the game, often the only thing standing between a win and a loss, in-fact today in one of my games a player on the other team scored but i was not counted because it bounced out of the net quickly, and the refs didn't see it. Now i don't think JamieBhoy67 is completely right in what he is saying because soccer (football) can be very hard game to ref, especially when you have to make a call on the spot a far distance from play. But this is still all the more reason to bring video replay into Soccer (football). And i find it ridiculous that even though the technology is already there, they still refuse to bring in video replay even though it would only be a minor change for the better.

 

me too eh

 

Even with video technology being brought in, the ref/linesmen will usually find some sort of infraction by a Celtic player to justify his * poor decision.

 

I must admit that I was sceptical about the refereeing conspiracy theory until I watched yesterday's League Cup Final. There were the huns playing pish and really struggling, it looked like only a matter of time until St. Mirren scored to lift the cup. Then in steps Craig Thomson sends off two huns, revitalises them, they go on to play much better and score to lift the cup. Another clear case of refereeing bias towards Rangers. when will it stop?

 

Stop talking nonsense ya sad Hun! The only surprise from yesterday was that the ref actually had the balls to rightfully sent the swan and Wilson off, too many refs have bottled it this season. They were stonewall red cards. Dangerous play & last man = reds.


Will Scotland's Shame use these 2 correct decisions as 'proof' they haven't been given the league this season?

 

Obviously irony is lost on you! I don't know though... I doubt that there are many "sad huns" today.

 

There's more than one meaning of 'sad' you idiot. It also means pathetic.


Why won't you get back to Rangers-Media and spout your BJK nonsense?


Sick & tired of Scotland's Shame members coming on here and trying to defend the Huns, you trying to convince us that the refs haven't handed you the league or something? That's the only reason you've posted in this thread, you think that 2 correct decisions going against Rangers (Surprised I must admit, they're that seldom) has somehow dispelled the idea that Rangers have been handed the league by the refs? Well, it hasn't.