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THIS IS WHY WE ARE 'PARANOID'!

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by jamiebhoy67, Feb 14, 2010.

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  1. Frank_the_bhoy

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    This * is getting inflammatory now.


    Biggest load a * he has come up with in this thread.

    delusional disorder comes to mind.

    Time to call a stop to this mods.
     
  2. kennydal

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    Frank ,we dont need telling when to call a halt to someone by yourself or anyone else ,everything is monitored on every forum within TC and when the Mods decide its time ,thats when its done.
     
  3. Frank_the_bhoy

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    Just a suggestion mate don't let me put you off. :50:

    He isn't debating he's outright trying to pish people off with these pathetic arguments.
     
  4. kennydal

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    And most of them * up eventually.:50:
     
  5. Taz Blind Justice Gold Member News Writer

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    We could all pick apart any one of the arguements from the catalogue of incidents that you listed, however I've only copied & am going to comment on this one, as this was one of the most distasteful, most offensive suggestions of them all.

    Phil O'Donnell's passing was without doubt one of the saddest days in Scottish Football for many a long year. Such a tragedy transcends football, and puts things in perspective. To try and somehow insinuate that the O** F*** match, scheduled for just 3 days later, was delayed for any other reason than out of respect is one of the most dispicable things I've ever heard. To further sully it & say that it was used as a pretext to allow for injury recovery (which is part & parcel of football) or for McGeady to return from a suspension - a suspension imposed by WGS, mind you - is pure nonsense.

    If we are ever short of a reason (not that we ever would be) to refer to R****** as Scotland's Shame, then this is the final confirmation that it's author or anyone who'd agree with such a theory have sunk to such a low, the utter depths of which I would have thought were unimaginable.

    Shame, Shame, Shame.
     
  6. Partickbhoy

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    Have to agree here.....thats well beyond queensberry rules.......Phil O'Donnell's death was a tragedy and to use that as some insane reasoning to point the finger at the club is not only disrespectful to his family but to Football and Scotland as a whole.

    Some things you leave alone on both sides of the city. Shame on you.

    Sort yersel' out.
     
  7. sickbhoy

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    Your showed your hand to early derrycelts!!! go join follow follow and one day you might get a friend out of it.....cyder albeit but still its better than you have at the moment instead of joining here and wasted everyones time!!!
     
  8. P R D

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    Here here :shamrock:
     
  9. seanleflem

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    One of the main difficulties we have in this debate is the fact that other SPL teams seem to believe there is an "Old Firm" bias.

    I don't live in Scotland now so I'm out of touch with fans of other clubs, but it would be great to hear from some of them.

    Don't know how it could be done, but its not impossible to canvas public opinion. Do they really believe we get as many dodgy decisions as Rangers.

    What do your friends from other clubs think ? Has anyone ever asked this on Twitter?

    I have never been a fan of John Reid & New Labour but I have a feeling that Mr Reid will be furious about this & there is I suppose a faint possibility something might be done now, although what exactly I couldn't hazard a guess
     
  10. bigsteve1967

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    There has always been the opinion that both OF teams get decisions against other SPL teams. That comes with the territory of being the biggest teams in the SPL. Look how many EPL teams complain that Man Utd / Arsenal / Chelsea get more than their fair share of dodgy decisions. All fans consider their team hard done by no matter what, its just easier to blame the bigger team/ referee
     
  11. Frank_the_bhoy

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    Your right but most only complain about one or two in any one match.

    We are complaining about a serious of decisions over the season.

    Steve lets me ask you as a fan of a team outwith celtic do you think that we have cause to complain about refs costing us points this season?
     
  12. kennydal

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    Cute and straight to the point .:56:
     
  13. bigsteve1967

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    On the grounds that I am a fan of Celtic, albeit a realist, and not a delusionist like some, i think Celtic have been the victim of poor refereeing decisions yes, and as a result have lost vital points.
    Do I believe there is a conspiracy - No, just a very poor standard of refs throughout the SPL as i have previously stated, i think all teams have suffered but celtic more so this season.
    Do I believe Celtic should have won the league this year - No, I dont because we have been * throughout the season and i dont blame the refs for us dropping stupid points or games all year.
    Do i think Rangers have been gifted the league this year, or it was all pre-arranged before a ball was kicked ? - No i dont, they have won it because like it or not they have a team that plays as a team and grinds out results playing * football. Man for man we have better players than them, but they dont play as a team, and that should be where management should be looked at.
    Finally Frank - When will you get it in your head that im not a Hun, just because im not as one sided in my views as you doesnt make me one of them.
     
  14. Partickbhoy

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    Agreed....sorry but these points are key in this discussion about conspiracies. It's a wild goose chase and its demeaning to the club.

    Aye the refs are about as much use as * on a fish but let this lie....we have been utter balls this year.
     
  15. P R D

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    I don't see the corellation between those two facts.

    This collective Uncle Tom Syndrome is nothing short of bizzare, and I'm lad the club are following the majority opinion here. Poor officiating performances have cost us unfairly. The SFA has not acted in an appropriate manner with regards to our concerns. Why should we let that go?
     
  16. Partickbhoy

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    It's pretty obvious.PRD...but I will try again *sigh* ....You may have noticed an apparent lack of threads titled 'Standards are poor' or 'Refereeing quality is shocking' ....its "This is why were paranoid" and "there after us" stylethreads.

    Hardly anyone is debating the standards of refs...its basically a collective discussion about an organised "anti Celtic bias" amongst refs and officials.



    There is, amongst the usual masonic ref imagery and JFK style rambling, a widespread suggestion that:

    1)Our league position is not due to our lack of tactics/guile/playingstyle/management. ...but is actually down to ref's and match officials and their decisions.

    2)Rangers are actually a * poor side that would never have won anything if it weren't for point 1.

    That is where the connection is...if you can't see the connection between those points then really the discussion is lost on you.
     
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    im sorry but last weeks game said it all. bougherra-yellow carded in 2nd minute,then has six,yes 6,bookable challenges and gets away with them.broony is wrestled by lafferty and is red carded for trying to get out of his grappling! there were also a number of shies and corners that werent which went un-noticed. that isnt paranoia its fact.dallas and the rest of his poodles have been well clued up to help the huns. if they werent to win the league,its almost certain they would go into administration.fact
     
  18. keano 007

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    HOW COME WE DIDN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT ALL THIS * WHEN WE WERE DOING 3 IN A ROW ??

    IT'S BECAUSE THE TEAM IS * THE NOW AND NOBODY WANTS TO ADMIT IT.

    FACT !!!!

    HAIL HAIL :celt_2:
     
  19. Partickbhoy

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    Another very interesting point......but remember its not about that...no no...... its a discussion about refereeing standards ........remember:97:
     
  20. P R D

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    The suggestion that we're using the situation with officials to cover up our poor performances is nothing short of a lie, propagated by the usual suspects and the minority that seem to beleive them over their own club.

    There are many problems at Celtic at the moment, and I haven't seen anyone deny that this has cost us considerably this season. Despite what the objective media clearly has you beleiving, these problems are well known to both the fans and the club, and no one is attempting to cover that up with complaints about the referees.

    The fact remains, however, have there is a serious lack of quality within Scottish officials, and that Celtic, and other clubs, have suffered in a footballing and, by extension, financial sense as a direct result. We have also seen the unfair appeals process brought under scrutiny, and the inability of the SFA to deal with these issues is now apparent.

    Apart from regurtitated, media-invented myths and illogical belief that our performances have anything to do with the issue, there is no substantial reason why the club should not be pressing for immediate change. The incompetency of Scottish football's governing body is having a negative effect on both Celtic and Scottish football as a collective.

    The supporters are now, rightfully, engaged in debate and the clamour for reform. Aspects of the debate may be totally left-field, but the average brainpower of your typical man on the terraces makes that an inevitability. Your getting caught up in the "Ignore the Paranoid Timmys" attitude of the media and other unsavoury elements of this country, and your letting that distract from the fact that officials have been awful in recent years, and that this is to our detriment.

    So I'll ask you again: Why should Celtic let the issue drop?