The Ones Who Have Forgotten Scott Brown!!

I'll never question Scott Brown's desire, determination, work rate etc.

But like people have pointed out time and time again:

- Poor tackler
- Poor positioning
- Poor passing
- Poor goalscoring record
- Poor temperament

 

''getting in aboot them'' isn't enough to earn you a Celtic jersey.

 

sell him!

 

I don't hate the guy, he's proved he can play well but I think that we should definately stay with the Crosas and n'guemo partnership. They are both technically superior to Brown and have proved themselves in the last few games.
Brown might get a chance when n'guemo goes to the African nations cup although with zi and ki both capable in midfield he might find getting into the starting11 hard.
If I was TM I would probably try sell him.

 

2 and bit seasons weve had him, i honestly wish we hadn't bought the guy, poor value for money

i remember the game against arsenal at parkhead he was terrible that night, big players are supposed to stand out in big games

and we havent seen anyway near the form he played while with hibs and he also doesn't give celtic what he gives scotland

 

As I see it, Brown is a 'jack of all trades, master of none' footballer, and performs best when he is surrounded by lesser players, or in teams that generally don't dominate. His 'box to box' style is best when playing against teams of a superior quality or ability.

When he was at Hibs, he was surrounded by some decent footballers, but also with those of lesser quality. As such, he was like the footballing version of a band-aid, covering for the short comings of some of his team mates, and by doing so takes the focus away from his own.

This is also true, when you look at his performances at international level. With all due respect to Scotland, they are hardly the best side on the planet, and a fair chunk of the time, tend to be up against sides that are either of a better quality or technical ability. Again, Brown can spend the entire duration of the match, doing little bits and pieces that cover up the shortcomings and aiding his team mates, and in so doing masks his own weaknesses. For Scotland, he has to be one of the first names of the teamsheet. For Celtic, I can't see this ever being the case.

He has 2 great assets to a footballer. His engine and his awareness. Fans & pundits may applaud his ability to 'cover every blade of grass', but when was the last time anyone waxed lyrical about his passing in the final third, shooting & tackling etc ? When we have been firing on all cylinders, how often has he been the man we have been talking about as having had a blinder, on the way home or in the pub afterwards? Indeed, during his time with Celtic, in my view, his better performances have tended to come when the team has been misfiring as a unit, & given them that little something, with his drive, which in the SPL has been good enough to get us over the line on those occasions... Until this season, that is.

Earlier this season when the team was under-performing he was still recovering from the surgery & hence was off the pace. Although his footballing brain, that awareness & instinct that he has always relied upon to get him into positions to help out his team mates was there, the injury hampered him & left him constantly that second or 2 late, his passing telegraphed & intercepted, his shooting tame, mistimed forward runs & thus missing chances or late to a challenge, therefore giving away free kicks etc. and instead of 'putting himself about' effectively, in actuality, we got his rendition of a headless chook. Couple this with his poor temperment, and it adds up to one thing - a big liability.

Of our central midfielders, he doesnt have the versatility that Robson has, Crosas's passing or N'Guermo's tackling. And this is before we really have a total appreciation of what ZZ has to offer, or the arrival of Ki Sung Yueng. Im not saying that any of these players are perfect - far from it. Brown has the awareness to see a pass, to see the opportunity to shoot or the need for a tackle, but currently, not the ability to convert this into actually making that precision pass, to take the right option in front of goal or to time that tackle just right. So, where does he fit?

My point:

A fully fit Brown would be a force to reckon with for alot of sides. He is a valuable asset, no question, and would command a decent transfer fee. But look at it from an outside perspective. Its undoubted he is talented footballer, but his game is best suited to that of the underdog. Indeed, I believe Brownie is the just the right fit to scrap and scrape for Scotland, yet had he been born Spanish or Brazilian (for example) its unlikely he posesses the quality or ability to play for a Spain or Brazil. By natural extension, at club level, he is the ideal footballer to improve a middle of the road team, and help them reach their potential, yet equally, I doubt that he could ever be the foundation for a successful dynasty to be built around.

I might be wrong, and if I am, I'll gladly eat humble pie. However there is only one person that can prove me wrong & I'd welcome him to do so - Scott Brown.

 

I agree with Nguemo playing well but not a fan of Crosas and i think he will be straight back onto the bench when Brown is back fit.

 

Definitely should NOT go back into centre midfield - for the simple reason that he can't complete a 20-yard pass without booting it 5-yards wide of his intended target and normally into touch.

Makes a massive difference having N'Guemo and Crosas in there, just for the overal quality of our play.

We should try him up-front for a bit if McDonald gets injured. He was excellent against Moscow away when he played up-front.

left midfield might be an option also, but McGinn/McCourt/Maloney already there.

 

i dont want to see the 2 that are plying just now out of the starting line up for a fit brown.
crosas and n guemo have been good past few weeks and if that continues i would not want brown back in the team without proving his worth. i dont think brown is anywhere near as good a player as he is thought of by many fans.
i think he is a headless chicken with not a lot of ability.
the only reason people think he is a good plyer is he charges about and looks busy.
but if u notice there are plyrs at celtic right now that dont need to charge about Crosas for example who doesnt make the misstakes brown makes but gets critisism the odd time for not looking like he is in the game. the reason it looks like that is he is technically a footballer unlike brown. he can do the thing brown wants to without lossing the ball or do it in 2 touches where as it takes brown 5 touches and a tackle to do what he wants to with it
if there was anything in the region of 3-4 million for brown i would accept it and carry him to whoever wants him.
have u forgotten about donati now looking a call up for italy possible AC Milan looking at him again, its fantastic to see who makes it as a celtic plyer now when plyers with actual ability are overlooked by so called fans that want a celtic way.

 

I'm still a huge Scott Brown fan. I can't wait for him to get fit again but he'll find it hard to push Crosas and N'Guemo out of the team cos they're an on form partnership for me right now.

But a fully fit Scott Brown gives you something no other player in the SPL gives you. He's been pish this year so far thanks to an ankle injury, if you can tell me one footballer who can play football without the full use of an ankle i'll give you £100.

 

Agree. We'd be better off selling him.

 

Have never rated the guy and agree with most of the comments here, Talk of 8 million offers not so long ago

Just gose to show if the media big a player up enough how much people believe it include other managers in that .

 

Oh ah haven't forgotten him.

Hoping Harry Redknapp hasn't either.

 

I don't see how he fits into Mowbray's philosophy. He gives away needless fouls, can't pass more than 5 yards with any accuracy, is shot shy and he has a fairly bad footballing brain. N'Guemo and Crosas are both better passers, N'Guemo is a tackling machine, both are more intelligent although both are shot shy.

 

I think Brown can still develop into a very good player for us. He had a good year last year and clearly he was never fit at all this season. He was very poor and really shouldn't have been playing. Crosas should have been playing all along and Mowbray flat out got that wrong. But to be fair to Bown he obviously wasn't healthy and should never have been played. We will see how he does when he gets fully fit and returns. I think if we can get him back fully fit that he can be a big player for us in the second half of the season.

 

i think hes awrite but we really need a player that can stay focused for 90mins and know when to come forword and sit back and i dont think hes got it just know but he still has alot of potential

 

One things for sure - £4.4 million was .. steep...

 

still not a waste though, got plenty of time to develop, give him time to work with mowbray i believe hel come good, after all it was mowbray who made him who he was when we signed him

 

FFS another Brown thread.

Posting a youtube vid isnt gonna get away from the fact he's been pish all season.

A niggling injury doesn't stop you from being able to trap a football, run in a semi-useful direction or pass to someone in the same coloured jersey.

No ones 'forgotten' him. How could anyone forget such a series of dire performances.

In my opinion, a big part of our improvement in recent games has been the CM partnership of Crosas and N'Guemo, I said months ago, in another 'Broonie' thread that those 2 should be given a run together and Broon should be benched.

They have been a stand out the last few games.

Brown, even last season and even when fully fit, has never done anything to convince me he's the squillion pound player people seem to think he is.

If some premiership team wants to splash out good money on him, Ill happily drive him there :bbpd: