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  1. Mikey1988 Banned!

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    I just think its sick that some celtic fans behave like westboro bapist church members. I though protesting during silences for dead soliders was there thing. Horrible its at this club. I'm not saying they are westboro members, it's just like something they would do.
     
  2. Roy's Keane

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    I find it bizarre that, in a world where everyone has access to a personal video recorder (mobile phone) that no-one thought to film these attention seekers so that we could see the genuine full extent of this singing.

    After all, it was a massive talking point before the game.

    Yet, we have ONE video from a foreign TV chanell doing the rounds as absoutle proof of their supposed indescretions which makes it sound like it's the whole Celtic support.

    I ain't buying it :shamrock:
     
  3. Airdrie Onion

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    Tbh, the youtube vid sounds like about 20 people at most to me. And yep, surprising that there's no vid of it. Even if it was outside the ground.
     
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    I'm not sure what to think looking at the 2 videos going round. The one filmed by the iPod wouldn't get the singing loud whether it was inside or outside the stadium because it only has a small localised microphone that will only really pick up what's close by whereas the TV audio comes from mics all over the stadium so they pick up everything.

    I must admit I missed the first 5 minutes on the TV as I was still suffering from the previous night so still haven't seen the Sky pictures although I can't see any reason why they would want to edit out such an obviously controversial talking point. They showed the huns rioting the other night and if it did happen it was obviously going to come out anyway. There is still the possibility this is a video that's been doctored by one of the few clever huns out there, although being honest I suspect that the pictures from the arab station are real.

    People can have their opinions but it is mine that if you don't want to take part in the silence, stay outside until it is over or turn your back. Singing through it I don't agree with at all.

    On a side note, Manchester United chose not to wear poppies on their shirt on Sunday, and there hasn't been any sort of media outcry about it. I'm surprised Celtic chose to wear the poppy knowing full well that this would happen.
     
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    As far as the first bolded point Liam, I am pretty sure that's exactly what DID happen? The people outside were under no order or pressure to stay quiet.

    Re the 2nd point, could you imagine if Celtic NEVER wore the poppy AND "their fans" were caught singing through the silence. It would give the detractors a reason to weld the two together and attack the club AND it's supporters as one.

    The fact we HAVE chose to wear the poppy, imo, seperates the club from a small idiotic minority of our support. It is a very important distinction to make. :shamrock:
     
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    I can see why there was so much fuss about us wearing a poppy for the Falkirk game, because it's Celtic, but did anyone else notice that Manchester United and Liverpool refused to wear one and hardly a murmer in the English press?
     
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    Also owned by Americans, remember.

    People tend to bloviate and go on and on concerning the annual poppy/Rememberence Day festivities. I will try keep opinions simple and to the point.

    Wearing a poppy: good
    Observing fallen armed forces and those currently serving: good
    Anyone disrespecting the moment's silence: how do you think it makes you look? My opinion, not so good
    Liverpool and Man Utd. not wearing a poppy: I thought this was a Celtic forum, screw them
    Turning around during observance of minute's silence: okay but stupid because your'e still being silent

    Now for the bold part of this:

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    I know two people currently serving in Iraq, one who had a hand in raising me. If it were not for people like him, we would not have the ability to * and moan on stupid forums such as this or even watch Celtic play every week. Stop crying and go post something about how the * we're going to win against Dundee United on the 22nd :bbpd:. * Bless ::Your Nation Here::!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  8. tits-oot!

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  9. erie32c

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    i am irish and they did not bring shame on me the wearing of the poppy is a personnal thing thats why they sell them in pups and on the streets they anint giveing away free, and i think that the minute silkeance is a joke to be forced on anyone in football matches .sure dont it be remereard around the country in the monements and churches and elsewhere around the world ,cant the people in charge of all this reconnize that to do it at footballl staidums will cause contaferizey ,and wher the dead is remereaderd should bee at the proper places,
     
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    its a democracy and ppl can protest all they like as for rememberance sunday, i believe it shud b held in respect by all because its not about british soldiers its about humanity and the men and women who died, suggestion also that the protestors shud hold there own remeberance day for there fallen.
     
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    this is just a after thought ,,is remerance sunday for all the dead in the two GREAT wars,or is it a cover up for the slater of young people {13 and 14 years olds sent to there deaths] with no hope of ever returning home,and the contuation of human rights abuses by the forches of the superpowers on small countries ,to yeild to there demands
     
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    I really do wish everyone would leave politics outside football stadiums , Is it asking too much to hold a 1 minute silence to remember all the troops that have lost their lives while serving the UK ?
     
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    I'm an ex-serviceman and so is my boy.
    We are both died in the wool Celtic supporters and season ticket holders at Celtic Park.
    My boy wasn't fortunate enough to serve in the Province, which I did in the 80's.
    I witnessed the full blast of religious intolerence towards a fellow man, which will never leave me till my dying day. I also met some of the nicest people on earth from both sides of the religious and political divide
    Rememberance Day is an emotional and emotive day, which brings the best and worst out of people.
    I deplore SOME sections of our support that take their stance, but I will defend them and their right to do so. After all, we live in a democracy, which allows anyone the right to get on the soapbox.
    Whether we like it or not, the poppy appeal will live on as long as people bear arms for this country we live in.
    Whether it is Northern Irish, Scottish, English Welsh of EVERY religious denomination; my £1 will go in the tin and a new poppy will be bought every year, whilst at the same time, feel immeasurably guilty that I'm not there with our Armed Forces now - old soldier's dilemma.
    You can argue that the poppy appeal has been hijacked because it was extended to cover all wars, but I take the argument that we will agree to disagree on that score.
    After all that is said and done; The vast majority of Celtic fans observed the minutes silence which is all we can ask.
    We live in a 21st Century Glasgow and a 21st Century Scotland, it's about time that we looked forward and moved on.
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    If you were not involved in any protest how can you claim to know what it was about and what it wasnt about? And what gives you the right to tell people they are not invited along to Celtic games???
     
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    By asking supporters to take part in a rememberance is bringing politics into football!
     
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    it is a TWO minute silance that is held oall over ,,so it was wrong from the start,and i for one will not hold any sort of silance for for your troops that serverd the uk in any war,after what they have inflicted on our people here in derry ,,,this my be off theard but i believe the above post to be also ,,,i will accepted any ban
     
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    There are strong feelings on both sides of the debate and we could discuss this issue until the cows come home but still we'd never get agreement.

    Those that think there should be a minutes silence will never fully understand those that protest and those that protest will never fully understand those that want the silence.

    So personally speaking I think both sides should just agree to disagree and we should move on from the entire debate and start to talk about Celtic again.
     
  18. erie32c

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    does that include hilter,
     
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    stop crying ,well for one what about the people that cant * AND MOAN, AS THEY ARE LAYING IN THERE GRAVES WORLD WIDE,because of human rights abusers from the american army and briitish ones to,,as for disrecpection ones right to have a minute sileance,,do they not have the right to do so or is it just one sided when it comes to the freedom of speech ,as and when it suits the so called armies of the superpowers,people can and will show there dissaprovel of these events ,my father servered in the 2nd ww and i no he would not have worn the poppy as he seen at first hand what was going on ,they were railroaded into the army ,and if they didnt go they were branded cowards,as were the young lads of the first ww,[13 and 14 years of age] when the generals sat back and watched the lads get slateder}so as for wearing a poppy forget it the goverments should hang there heads in shame,knowely sending the boys to die ,,people that had family that died should have there own personal thing for them ,,because after all they are left with nothing but memories of there loved ones,all you have to do is look at the way the gukuas have been treated,and as for the americians ask hoe the coulor s had been treated by there own durning the wars , soas for wearing the poppy means something to a lot of peopleit also endoses what the govements done to the ordinery working class people so instead of wearing it they shoud stop wearing it in protest of there own goverments and hyow they sent there own people to a ealy grave ,,i do not intend to offend anyone as i bear in mind there love ones should not bbwe forgotting,
     
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    fair play to the lads.....couldnt have chose a better song. Talk football? all people do on here is cry and whinge about anything that happens...football or not...

    back to the topic...i recently got a bumblebee and would be ashamed to wear it after the dirty flower that provides drugs was stitched on....where was the easter lily eh???

    "why did you do it...had you not the guts to say"....mcanespie R.I.P.....well done lads for helping the brits open their eyes
     
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