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stop this ungrateful snipping at WGS

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by gunt, Jul 27, 2009.

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  1. Green Wing

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    Now, Strachan did a great job for us, no doubt. 3 titles and two last 16's. And aye, he's left us with a good squad.

    What I can't abide though is folk doing down O'Neills achievments in order to back Strachan up, because both managers were great for us, and will go down in history.

    O'Neill stopped Rangers domination and put us back on the European map. FACT.

    Strachan kept up the good European work, won us 3 titles out of 4. FACT.

    Time to move on folks, we have a new manager now and it promises to be an exciting journey.

    FACT!
     
  2. pHatRon67

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    Agree 100%

    I just don't think that allows Strachan to be spoken about in the same manner as Jock Stein.
     
  3. DennyBhoy

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    Totally agree with You Gunt
    i Always supported Strach, But hes gone Now, And thats That.
    The futures bright, We have a Strong Squad under a Great manager And Lets Hope he will bring as much success to out club as WGS did
     
  4. mmmikey

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    Fair play, for as big a fan I was of WGS I won't make that comparison.

    But there were other things said as Danni pointed out regarding us losing out on players because of Strachan - that is surely mince and typical of the unwarranted and unfounded comments a lot of people have been posting lately.
     
  5. pHatRon67

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    It's a personal opinion that I'm making after hearing people who have had first hand experience with him, wether it be in public situations or are the club.
     
  6. mmmikey

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    Fair do's but I really don't think Strachans persona affected any potential signings. In fact I've heard nothing but praise for his man/personal management albeit McGeady obviously but he also comes across as a jumped up litte *, as I'm sure Neil Lennon would testify.
     
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    Agreed.

    I'm sick of arrogant Celtic fans that think they have the * given right to win the league. Without Strachan being successful and whilst the board cut costs all around him, we would be in as much turmoil as Rangers. He did alot of dirty work for Celtic and it puts Mowbray in a strong position to take the club forward. The fact that the club is able to bring in players whilst UCL status isnt certain is testament to Strachan's management
     
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    Here, here.

    The board were prepared to spend big in MON's first couple of seasons, that's how we had players the calibre of Thompson, Sutton and BBJ joining, which helped MONs job become a tad easier, that job was to stop Rangers dominance and put us back on the European map. MON succeeded and will always be remembered as a legend. It didn't hurt either that HE inherited quality players, like Mjallby, Larsson, McNamara and Moravcik.

    I heard the reason they spent so big at the time was because Desmond etc thought there was a real possibility of being allowed into the Premiership.

    Premiership bosses put an end to that notion with a 20-0 vote against Celtic and the Huns joining.

    Then the cutbacks started, and MON had to bring in guys like Varga, Guppy, Sylla. You'll remember there was a fair amount of disgruntlement between the board and MON towards the end (remember the remarks made by Quinn about "our esteemed manager"?). MON was not happy with the budget restraints.

    And why should he have been? Does anyone here seriously believe MON wanted to leave an ageing, decrepit old squad? No, he wanted to add quality but wasn't backed. The only compromise was Juninho, a player MON didn't even want.

    MON went off to care for his wife, and Strachan came in and did a marvellous job on an ever diminishing budget. That should never be forgotten. He was the guy the board wanted because they knew he would toe the party line whilst acrrying out a professional job. We never heard Strachan complain about diminished budgets; he knew from the outset what budget he was gonna get, and how he was gonna use it, and what the aims and goals were.

    Now Mowbray's in, having inherited a great squad from Strachan, but his budget is just as tight as Strachans.

    Basically, he's been brought in with the hope of getting the same results as Gordon.

    If the football's a bit sexier, well that'll be a bonus. :50:
     
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    well here we go again.its strange dont you think why threads like this turn up.

    would we not prefer threads all saying the same thing like "wgs what a manager" or "fantastic" or any other compliment you can thing off.

    why is every thread about the ginger * negative?

    in my opnion he ruined a good team,he set celtic back years when we were in a position to be a top 8 european club,he done it the strachan way,and what a load of * it was
    even wining the titles was boring as watching second division scottish football
    the team was boring ,the team were going backwards,
    the players were even getting fed up with it,mcgeady,boruc, donati,skippy,balde took the huff with him for different reasons .

    i never liked him but put up with him because it was celtic,i sometimes forgot myself by slagging him and i am not sorry for it,

    im glad hes away i dont think any celtic fan could stomach another season of the strachan way,,
    and if i feel like comparing mogga,s style to strachans i will and no one will tell me not to
    strachan was a joke and he was not funny
     
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    so we shouldn't use any success mowbray has to slag wgs but that is exactly what your doing with wgs v oneil.oneil done well against a better huns team than wgs had to face.wgs done well in first three years while cutting wage bill.last year was shocking and wgs didnt no how to improve the teams performances,if we went a goal down he had no answer and would sit in the back of the dugout and do nothing.i travel over 800 miles every home game and want to be entertained the last 12 months under wgs were dier and made the journey even worse. if you dont like people slagging him then tough he didnt help himself with the way he spoke to the media(our only way of knowing whats happening at the club we love)and the way he used to come out after games and try and talk pish about how great we had played in defeat ,when we had been *.he stayed 12 month to long and i am glad he has gone im not comparing him to any other manager i just didnt like his style of play.

    ps if you dont want people to slag him dont start threads about him
     
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    Nobody is slagging O' Neill. To state the issues he faced after the 1st season spending spree isnt slagging him. Like Strachan he had his mistakes but nobody is constantly rubbing it his face like he was a failure at Celtic.

    Back then, people were grateful to be winning, now they * that we won it by a country mile, * when the title race is close. The attitude of some sections of our support need to be addressed
     
  12. canadian_bhoy

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    I'm sorry to say it, but the success that Celtic have had under Gordon Strachan has as much to do with the demise of Rangers as it does with any positive contributions from Strachan.

    You put any of Strachans team into the 1990's SFL/SPL and Rangers would have torn us a new a$$hole.

    Strachan did a good job of keeping Celtic competitive during a time of clawbacks and spending restrictions. He got us to the final 16 of the CL and he brought 3 titles in a row to Celtic. But I wouldn't rate his accomplishments too highly considering the competition we were up against during his tenure.
     
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    This "most successfull manager since JS" rubbish gets on my nerves. Gordan was up against a terrible Rangers team. MON would have torn them to shreds.
     
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    To be fair there were some mighty performances in Europe where Rangers did not meet us....
     
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    fixed your post! :D

    Eyes forward, I'm really hyped about the upcoming season. I'm glad that the Strachan era is over and am looking to move on...first stop, Wednesday!
     
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    the man was sucessful! end off and stop * greeting about it he isnt here now move on ffs:31:
     
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    Firstly can i just say i am looking forward to the future with Mogga and Im elated with the start we have made (not getting too exited as th real stuff has yet to begin).

    I think the biggest differance to the regime under WGS will be his man-managment! Players like Donati and Killen maybe few others could prove to be like new signings and I am more than confident my Saturday afternoons will be spent watching attacking and entertaining football something that we have been deprived under WGS.

    Now not too snipe as I am glad that era is over (even with the TROPHIES that we are often remined of from the "Gordon can do no wrong" club).Lets wake up here and realise Rangers were so poor that even the Jambos fnished ahead of them 1 of the 3 leagues we won. Infact it has been the worst Rangers team any hoops manager had to compete against and last year IMO WGS handed them the title with bad decitions and even worse team selection a times compiled with the most mundane football seen in many a year. His attitude and arrogance worked against him too often. I still feel he put eveything he had into his job and worked his socks off. The truth be told he wasnt good enough and never has been in previous roles his track record speaks for itself. I wish the man all the best but I would be a liar if I said I will miss him.

    Here is to good times (fingers crossed) under the new manager and Im sure everyone will notice a massive differance this year and realise what we have been missing.
     
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    Thats some post mate. More like an essay but still some good points made :50: having said that i was never a fan of wgs. He was far from honest especially after the side performing so bad last year and him joking after each game. It may have been funny after the first 1 or 2 times but it got pretty annoying after a while.

    I am grateful for the work he put into the youth at our club as we have brought in some great players for the future and im grateful for what he did for us in the champions league however i just never took a liking to the man. He may know alot about football but that doesnt make him a great manager.

    Its a great appointment in tony mowbray as he brings alot of qualities to the club that strachan doesnt. Honest, very approchable as we have seen from davies footage a couple of weeks back and very smart with his tactics. Ok its only the beginning of his reign at the club but having watched us in the preseason games i havnt been more entertained in at least a year watching celtic so fair play tony.

    :50:
     
  19. Markybhoy

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    Gordon Strachan did have quite a good eye for a player. The fact he left us with a good squad of players tells you that.

    It's just a shame he didn't have the foggiest idea how to get those good players set up to play attractive football! I felt more enjoyment watching that friendly on Friday night against Al Ahliy than I felt in 6 months of watching Strachan's turgid bilge. Players finally looked like they had a bit of freedom and were moving the ball around with a bit of pace and purpose, not passing it sideways and at 1mph.

    Yes Strachan did give us a good squad of players(and I thank him for that) and that gives Tony Mowbray a good starting point to build from. But Strachan's brand of football was *. I'm glad I won't ever have to clap eyes on it again.
     
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    You're dreaming. Celtic could never be a top 8 club in Europe unless we took some huge risks financially. We might be able to do it with some serious spending. On the other hand, we might cease to exist entirely if it goes wrong. I'm sorry but I don't think it's a risk worth taking. I'd rather stay an average team in Europe than run the risk of becoming another Leeds.

    I would gladly have taken another season of "the Strachan way". I would have taken another four seasons of it. 3 out of 4 titles is domestic dominance on a scale which I've never seen in my life and I doubt Mowbray will be able to better that record. In fact, I'd honestly prefer it if Strachan was still our manager today.