the madness of footballers wages

IMO, football became sick when players started getting 10s of thousands a game. Footballer should have been wages capped at something like 5 grand a game. That is still quarter of a million a year for playing a game and you can have a pretty * good lifestyle on that ffs. Its ten times what most fans make. They made a huge mistake when it spiralled into many 10s of thousands a week. It also put ticket prices up a fortune. The SFA need to cap wages. TBH I doubt if many are on much more than 5 grand a week anyway outside the OF. I know that would mean an end to many imports but someone has to make a stand.

 

the hollywood wages should have been kept to LA acting brigade,the wages today are out of touch with reality however we the fan fuel this excess by our economic strength which didn't exist for many of us in the 70s,80,and early 1990s

 

I remember seeing that someone playing for Shamrock Rovers makes like USD 70,000 per year. *' *... I'd kill to play football full time and make a livable wage.

 

Yeah thats Gary Twigg their striker...

 

I know some people worship the free market etc but its got no morals and as a socialist I think its balls anyway. I dont care what the rest of the world do but I think we need a wage cap. Its madness when someone who just aint that great like Mick or Naylor may well be on a million a year. Its not that long ago when making £200,000 a year for doing something that you love sounded pure magic to all the fans. A dream way out of reach of 99% of the fans. There really was no need to spiral wages off into the stratisphere but that is free market economics for you. Pretty weird that the US football is not free market given how much that seems to be worshiped by politicians over there.

 

UEFA and FIFA hasve to make a stand. Do something. Signing fees could stay but wage demands could be capped.

Great post Forrest. Been thinking this for years. You have a knack of putting so much common sense ideas down coherently.Hail hail mate.

 

See on top of that keltoi ,would it make sense to you if all the players in the first team earned the same amount ,why ,im thinking along the lines of anamosity maybe creeps into the dressing room ,ie say Naylor earned 15,000 a game and JVOH earned 30,000 a game ,now it being a team game and they all play as one ,and play for the same prize ,has Naylor got the right to chap the managers door and say ,eh up whats the craic ,i know agents do the wheeling and dealing but should clubs cap there wages for every first team player ,whether your a goalie or left back ,is there a case that every player should earn the same ,,,same club ,same team ,etc thoughts .

 

I don't like the idea of a player wage cap, where would you set it? If you set it for the SPL it would either be clearly too high to make any difference to anybody outside of the OF or else mean that the OF were limited to very poor players and the board pocketed all the profits.

Why should a David Beckham be limited to an average players wages if he earns the club millions in shirt sales and TV subscriptions? The same argument is being made by Real at the moment when signign all these superstars - they are worth the cash as they will earn it back by cashing in on them. Excellence should be rewarded.

What i am in favour of is a cap on the % of turnover spent on wages, say 60%, which would mean a club was living within its means. A club should be able to pay players what the club thinks the players are worth - if it can afford it. If there was a wage cap in the SPL we wouldn't have been able to hang on to Larsson for so long, he'd probably have found himself on the same wages as a player like Craig Beattie. What would motivate Beattie to get better as a player if he was on the same money as the club's star player?

As long as a club has the money it should be able to spend it how it pleases. The only way it should be able to get into debt is through capital investment ie building a new stadium.

 

Wage caps won't and don't work. Clubs get around them by being creative, offering free houses, cars, lots of bonuses etc.

What drives silly wages out of all proportion is silly sponsorship and TV deals. If you stripped that money away you'd be hard pushed to find more than a handful of clubs worldwide who could pay 5 star wages to players over the course of a 3 or 4yr contract.

The fact is if we were getting 30 or 40mill a year from TV deals we'd all love it as we'd be watching top players in the hoops every week and we'd all soon forget our socialist ideals.

 

I'd like to see money taken out of the game, or at least have its influence reduced. Players should get given a salary and this can go up every year based on performace etc. This is a steady sum, but nothing mad. On top of that, players get paid a fee for playing, thus encouraging more commitment to performing well. At the end of the season the fans or the board of both can vote for the top performers and dish out bonuses in accordance. Just something to encourage players to want to play every game to their very best. It sickens me at times watching guys like Naylor and Donati just meekly going about their business and not looking at all like they'rte up for it. They're millionaires out of the pockets of many who have to really struggle to see the team that they love and that is a part of their life. Its a world gone mad.

 

1. How do you expect to introduce a cap now? Players won't go from £50,000 to £5,000 a week.

2. If guys like Sky are willing to pay so much for the TV rights, I would rather see the money go to the players that into the pockets of directors.

 

they could set the cap system after that contract has run out mate.

this is something i have voiced on here before ! there must be a wage cap come into play! the same goes for signing on fees?
christ scottish football is it turmoil and all you get is the epl slapping us in the coupan with their wod of dosh it makes me sick tbh.

and also the money sky gives that could be used to help out fans aswell as help the club? directors dont and should not line their pockets with it?

 

Fair enough, English clubs rake in the cash from TV and Sponsorship deals and pay out high wages accordingly. However it's not until recent years that the figures quoted for wages has become astronomical, by recent years i mean the select few oligarch owners such as Roman Abramovic.

It's now the case that a traditionally pishy club like Man City come along with a horrendously wealthy owner looking for a centre back. They look to Everton who under normal circumstances would not be interested in selling Joleon Lescott, however make them an offer that they can't refuse (ie far far higher than his actual worth). Joleon Lescott may want to stay at Everton and not be keen to join Man City, but an offer of a 200% increase in his weekly wage and it's very hard to turn down.

Scenarios like this have gradually pushed players wage demands up and up. These * at Man City set the precedent with the crazy offer for Kaka back in January, which in turn probably pushed up the asking price and weekly wage demands of Cristiano Ronaldo. As a result, quotes of £145,000 per week for the likes of Carlos Tevez is par for the course!

 

good post mate

 

I know, i was reading this morning about Man Utd going for Sergio Aguero from Athletico Madrid. Man Utd are willing to pay £45m for him. Chelsea were looking at him but they were put off by his £200,000 a week wage demands. £200,000 a week! Who does he think he is like?? He's 21 years old, he scored 23 goals in 54 games for independiente and 42 goals in 112 games for Athletico Madrid and has also scored 6 goals in 18 games for Argentina. Who does he think he is?? If i was spending £45m and £200,000 a week for a player i would be looking for double that goals per game ratio. Players are so over priced these days it's unbelievable.

Ronaldo's another one. If he's worth £80m Messi's worth £160m.

 

precisely mate! its got to be stoped,and the 200,000 a week carry on! one stupid clown will give them this it makes a mockery of the game!
things like this is going to kill football unless blatter and platini get their fingers out and level the playing feild a bit for everyone

 

It'd be very difficult to introduce a salary cap into todays game. It would be easier to have a total salary budget that can be distributed amongst the team as a whole with performance bonuses added as an extra.

A few seasons ago all the players in the NHL went on strike because of a salary cap. They lost a whole seasondue to this. Imagine if that happened over here. Ice hockey isn't even the number one sport in the US.

 

aye but if wages were capped at about 5000 or even 10000a week, the cost of tickets could be ust a third of what they are now or certainly drop back down to something sane like they were in the 80s. I see fans not players as the heart of football.

Hammer-I dont mind rewarding excellence but there has to be a limit or it becomes obsene (in every walk of life. Also, we are rewarding medicrity. I imagine we have had lots of pretty average players on 15,000+ a game. Its pure insanity that people in any walk of life get that for a weeks rather pleasant work. Its impossible to respect that because it cant be morally justified. As I said before, athe free market if unrestrained leads to obsenity and injustice and should not be admired or put on a pedestal. It puts players out of the real word and out of touch with the games roots-the fans. I also think the money being there is the problem. Almost everything about football that matters was better in the ealry 80s in bioth Scotland and England before the money was pumped in. Its basically ruined the game and bent peoples minds.

 

But some caps are too low as in US Football. I am only asking our (not exactly world beater) players to accept a peak of making say 5 grand a game. Not exactly hardship earning quarter of a million pounds a year for playing a game they love. Most fans will be lucky if they can make that in a decade. Anyone who went striking about that would get no support from the fans because they wold essentially be being greedy aresholes. It couldnt be doen overnight but you could make the change so it comes into effect in say 5 years time.

 

If all the clubs pulled together on this - the players wouldn't have much of a choice. I think if they were capped on £5k a week - I doubt if many of them would say "F*ck that - i'm away to be a joiner or a plumber". They are still on a great wage compared to those who sit in the stands

I would rather see the money go back into those least fortunate - the supporters. Just think, if there was a wage cap of £5k - just imagine the millions (or billions) available for upgrading stadiums, building sports facilities around the countries, cheaper admission prices so stadiums can be full again with people who have been priced out of the game etc. etc

Unfortunately, greed will rule and "i'm alright Jack" will make sure the majority continue to subsidise the minority.