Player Value

The value of our squad this year in my opinion has dramatically decreased. With players such as mcgeady/boruc and venegor last year worth 10/10/5 million respectively dropping in form/personal problems.

Just want to have a wee debate about player value compared to last season and overall team value. Last seasons value in (brackets.)

Boruc - 5 Million (10 Million)
Hinkel - 4 Million (2 Million)
Naylor - 500k (2 Million)
Mick - 2.5 Million (4 Million)
Caldwell - 4.5 Million (3 Million)
Mcgeady - 6 Million (10 Million)
Crosas - 1 Million (Same)
Brown - 6 Million (4 Million)
Nakamura - free (4 Million)
Mcdonald - 3 Million (5 Million)
Vengor - 2 Million (4 Million)

This years value - 34.5Million
Last years Value - 48 Million
difference - 13.5 Million

This is an awful lot of money. I dont think im far wrong with this assumption but i know some of you will disagree and critisize my valuation of the team, however in my defence i believe this is close to accurate.

Views??

 

I don't think Mcgeady's value will have decreased that much, nor McDonald's.
I think you might be underestimating how much Brown and Crosas are worth.
The overall value of the squad might have decreased but not by so much that it makes any appreciable difference to our future.
We're financially stable and not looking to have a huge clear-out from what I gather, and unless we sell Boruc or Aiden for much less than they're worth, I don't think it'll make much of a difference.

 

I included the rough cost of each player to give a rough cost for the squad.
SO if those players are worth £34.5m its not bad considering we paid £14.9m.

Just to put a different spin on the post.

 

Suppose that makes an awful lot of sense if you put it that way. The point im trying to prove is, it just shows how a bad season can effect the value of a squad. We havnt had alot of good performers this season, i just hope we can improve for next season

 

I am not underestimating how much brown and crosas are worth. You cannot seriously consider brown to be worth more than 6 million, just remember how much petrov left for when he signed for villa. If brown gives 2-3 good seasons then his value may reach the 10 million bracket however 6 million is definately accurate considering his form.

As for crosas we signed him for 400k. 1.5 Million is generous considering he hasnt been great since his arrival. Realistically hed be lucky to go for over 1 million

 

Well I certainly wouldn't accept those types of bids for either of them.
I wouldn't take less than £8 million for Brown and considering Crosas' age and potential, it would hope we would laugh off a bid of £1 million.

 

To be fair, i don't think you are that far off in your estimations for many players (Hinkel / Mick / Naylor / Caldwell / Vennegoor)...no way 3 mill for Skippy whough - 50 goals in 2 seasons, and all-round play has improved dramatically. 5 mill at least, i would not sell for less than 6. Still our top goalscorer this season (although he has played lots more than Sammy with the Grecian's injuries.)

McGeady was never worth 10 million anyway, but i reckon he's remained a static 6 over the period of time in all honesty - last season was exceptional, but still no bids near 10 mill came in or he'd have been on his way.

Petrov was a few years back now, and was older at the time than Brown is now. I'd class Brown in the 8 million bracket as per Petrov, especially given the amounts of money that are chucked about for young talent by English teams. Strong rumours when we bought him that an English club offered us at least 6.5 for him.......that sum has certainly not fallen after this season's exploits.

Boruc - for a keeper - is still young, and i don't think his price has halved in one season at all - Europe will remember him for his '08 International exploits as well (sadly) as occasional frailties over 1 season. He would still command a fee of 6/7 with add-ons in a sale.

Sno went for 1 million. As such, Crosas is worth considerably more...a poor couple of games of late does not take away from the fact he has adapted to the game over here very well. Next year is a big chance for him to push on. Either way - would be more than 1 mill at present in my humble opinion.

Nothing we can do about Naka, so the 4 mill should not be counted against the final total IMO.

Boruc - 7 (10 Million)
Hinkel - 4 Million (2 Million)
Naylor - 500k (1 Million)
Mick - 2.0 Million (4 Million)
Caldwell - 4.5 Million (3 Million)
Mcgeady - 6 Million (6 Million)
Crosas - 2 Million (1 million)
Brown - 7.5 Million (4 Million)
Nakamura - free (4 Million) - but N/A.
Mcdonald - 6 Million (5 Million)
Vengor - 2 Million (4 Million)

41.5 worth at present for 10 players - non-Naka. Last year's worth 40 for 10 players. Just how i see it though.

 

Im not saying we would sell the players for that price. Thats their value though, weve bought the guy for 400k what has he done to merit over a million pound. The only reason hes worth 1 Mill is because of that wonder goal he scored lolol

 

Celtic would be lucky to even get £1million for Artur Boruc now.

I know this to be true because Hugh Keevins said so.

 

What are these player valuations based on? Are you taking contract value, duration and importance to the club into account?

 

Who are you asking Demps? I've tried my best to take everything into account, but it's all guesswork as actual transfers tend to be until they are done! (140 million for Ribery etc etc which no-one can anticipate).

 

The valuations are based on pure guess m8. Its a guessing game to anyone... do you think you could predict any better?

 

Anyone thats making a valuation tbh. Valuation of a player is one thing, potential fee to buy a player is another

 

How would we know who's valuation was better? Thats why I'm not bothering

 

Could not agree more...nonetheless, i still say that ball-park estimates can be made; espeically bearing in mind we are a club that is noted for finacial.....prudence, shall we say (a.k.k there are some bids the hierarchy - in my opinion again - would not turn down).

I'm a cocky *, so i'll say i'm * bang on.:icon_mrgreen:

 

Boruc - 5 Million (10 Million)
Hinkel - 4 Million (2 Million)
Naylor - 1.5m (500k)
Mick - 3.5 Million (4 Million)
Caldwell - 5 Million (3 Million)
Mcgeady - 6 Million (10 Million)
Crosas - 1 Million (Same)
Brown - 6 Million (4 Million)
Nakamura - free (4 Million) - don't think you can count Naka as he is on a free
Mcdonald - 6 Million (5 Million)
Vengor - 2 Million (4 Million)

total 40 (43.5)
I'm basing my valuations purely on performances over the last year.

I think the problem is that our two most valuable players last season (Boruc and McGeady) have been nowhere near the standard of last season, which is disappointing considering they are both still relatively young for thei rpositions.

 

* * - in all truth, i was going to put his current value down as a pack of wotsits and a lion bar, but refrained to maintain realism....you appear to have gone the other way!

If we were to ever get offered 3.5 million for McManus, there would be a queue of punters lining up to carry him to his proposed new location.:icon_mrgreen:

 

A bit optimistic with some of your valuations and possibly undervalue with others. I'd go for...

Boruc - 3 Million
Hinkel - 1.5 Million
Naylor - 500k
Mick - 1.5 Million
Caldwell - 2.5 Million
Mcgeady - 7 Million
Crosas - 1 Million
Brown - 8 Million
Nakamura - free
Mcdonald - 4 Million
Vennegoor - 1 Million

 

Each and every one of them is only worth what someone else will pay for them but I would say the Doc is close.