The uncomfortable truth about many Celtic fans

i know ,thats my point ,i have never met one ,

 

I totally agree with the original post.
I just want to see someone answer the question that was put and not take umbrage as if it's getting at everyone who disagrees with WGS management style.
I think there is a lot of bigotry concerning Strachan's management and how did you know I was a big boy? :icon_mrgreen:

 

I have no idea what religion he practices and frankly I don't care.

 

i should have said ,i have not met a celtic minded person who "hates" strachan for the * of it,

 

But it still doesn't mean it's got anything to do with bigotry, the fact that GS is not a Celtic man and all that bollocks. I believe the religious part of this club is always goanny be there and rightly so but it will never be the single factor for people's opinions on anyone at our club, no matter how strong the links are.

 

I have read posts from people that say "I've never liked Strachan" in fact it's pretty regular.

Which suggests even before he played a game there was for some reason a dislike of him...

 

I think it's more to do with:
1: Him not being what some believe to be 'Celtic minded'
2. Things he said about Celtic when he was an Aberdeen player.
3. Some think he's a smart * because of his interviews.

I don't have a problem with constructive criticism.

There, that should keep Davey and RT happy. :icon_mrgreen:

 

Patrick O'Strachan :icon_mrgreen:

I'm the wrong one to judge that, I'm a foreigner ffs :icon_mrgreen:
but based on the posts and other impressions I could experience I believe that there's a minority of celtic supporters that hate him without a reasonable reason. just because they want to hate him.

another point I think is the following:
the comparison between MoN and WGS is still the heart of many people's grudge. let me explain, MoN could give a good account of himself, he could talk with the supporters that's why he got popular among us. many of us found him pleasant, cool, one of us. between you and me I don't think he was such a good manager like everybody else likes to think. as I said, he has got a good mouth, he can motivate people and that was his strong point. we thought a celtic supporter was living his dream and managing celtic.

actually after MoN's departure, no manager could actually win the fans over. no one could follow in the steps of MoN. from the start the manager after MoN's regime had already been doomed.

what did we get? WGS, a small, ginger haired scotsman, that used to play for aberdeen and so people say, really played excellent against us and celtic supporters hated him. I guess some older supporters didn't (don't) like him because of that.

I think the reason why a big part didn't accept him from the start was because the supporters expected another MoN, another "one of us" type of guy, instead we got quite the opposite. a decent man, that'd rather be interested in football than us supporters (like any other normal manager would be, because his job is to manage the team and not to please the supporters off the pitch, that's what hoopy is here for).

to cut a long story short: the general supporter's view was extremely wrong when MoN left. we expected another MoN, MoN2. we forgot that the manager's job is to manage our team to glory and not to entertain the supporters off the pitch.

as long as people don't wanna accept the fact that football is business and most decent managers ain't celtic supporters, they are still shocked by WGS appointment. not because his name is gordon strachan, because he's different to MoN.

 

If you choose to believe that, fair enough. But I think you're wearing rose tinted specs if you think there is no-one within the Celtic support whose opinion of the manager is not influenced by religion.

 

Maybe it's because he stepped into MON's shoes. MON was a * to most Celtic supporters and Strachan, not being Irish and not having been a Celtic supporter in the past may be a couple of reasons for the Anti-Strachan fever. Also he's from that evil place in the east. :icon_mrgreen:

 

ok fair enough,but to me bigot means "one wants some harm to come to someone becuse they dispise that person"

simply not liking someone is totally different,

and again i dont know of anyone or have met anyone who has that way of thinking, and if i did i wouldent give them the time of day

 

If there is i have yet to meet them. And i know a good few old school tims who refuse to give up the * the queen/up the ra/dirty orange etc. etc. nonsense.

 

Bigotry does not always mean physical abuse. And maybe it's possible that they think that way but wouldn't admit it.

Not many people are willing to own up to their worst character traits.

And do any of them fully support Strachan?

 

Jock Stein was a protestant, so was a load of celtic legends, if you believe this as a reason people dislike strachan then you are wrong.

 

Does anyone object to that definition of bigotry?

"Not being Celtic Minded" is bigotry

 

There's definitely an element like that in our support I've met people before who have told me to my face that you're not a real Celtic fan and will never know the true meaning of Celtic because you're not Irish.

I've also seen posters on here before that have expressed similar views and thankfully been banned. So from those past experiences I wouldn't rule out there being an element of support that wouldn't like Wgs because of his background.

 

If the reason fans hate him is because they don't consider him Celtic minded then I'd say that was bigotry.

 

Is GS protestant, i would like to know this as if he isn't this conversation is madness?

He was a hibs fan, which maybe suggests otherwise, not that it would in any way matter if he was.

 

AFAIK, he is protestant but I never really cared what religion he was and never had reason to look that up because it doesnt matter to me

 

Who cares? It's all about perception. He doesn't wave his religious beliefs (whatever they may be) like a badge of honour, so he isn't perceived as a Catholic.

As you say, he's never pretended to be anything other than a Hibee. No attempt to score Brownie points by hinting at leanings toward Celtic. He's let his record speak for itself.