Signings - Strachan and O'Neill

Yeah SV, that's from last January, it's a bit old.

 

in 3 seasons GS has spent about £4m more than MON spent in 5 seasons according to these figures, it will be interesting to see how much GS has spent come the 4 and 5 season mark.

 

The value of money has changed since MON's day though.

 

i'd agree in terms of the English league's but only the English league's which means we should look elsewhere.

 

If you take a look at how much players are going for now, you'll see that players who were worth 6 million back then (Chris Sutton) would cost nearer 20 now, so you have to take the value of money as well as the availability of money into account.

 

It's changed everywhere, most in the EPL though.

Scott Brown wouldn't have cost £5m in 2,000.

 

a lot of people would argue we paid over the odds for Brown.

If you take into context our buying power over our main rival, then and now, this is probably the fairest comparison to make.
MON inherited a better team low in confidence, GS has spent more, and has more spending power than his rival in comparison, is that fair comment?

 

I completely disagree with that.

At the time MON spent £20M in his first season, you'll never see that happen again. 20M back then was massive compared to now

 

Nonsense.

Chris Sutton cost £10m when Chelsea bought him the previous season,and was widely acknowleged as a flop.He was a gamble when we bought him.No team would gamble £20m on a so called flop,even today.

John Hartson had a history of injuries and failed medicals at several clubs.He was a gamble when we bought him too.No team would risk £20m on a player with such a record of injuries today or any other time.

I love Neil Lennon,but to suggest any team would spend £20m on him today is ludicrous.

 

it is possible to get the exact amounts of tranfers from the financial review of the spl from the accountancy firm PriceWaterhouseCoopers im sure that Jarosik was 1 mill max and as Ricardinho said donati was a lot less about 1.4 mill or somethin

 

He also took in about £11m in sales.

 

He hasn't had more spending power than MON, especially in his first, and arguably most important, transfer window.

 

And the wage bill?

 

Aye but before Chelsea he was one of the best strikers in the EPL, it wasn't that big a risk at all.

If you'd read Hartson's book you'd know that the medical's he failed were extremely harsh- and he said he always felt physically fit. MON listening to the guy and trusting him shows he's an honourable man, but signing a teenager who'd broke the British teenage transfer record twice isn't even a Robson-sized risk. He didn't have a history of injuries either, that's simply not true.

I'm not suggesting Lennon would cost £20m, I said Sutton. By that I meant a proven goalscorer. Shevchenko would cost much nearer £20m than £6m we paid for Sutton, as would other strikers who had a bad year like Bent.

If you don't believe players are going for more money nowadays, you must be living in a hole.

 

I have no facts and figures to offer but Martin Oneill faced a Murray-funded big spending Rangers whilst Strachan encountered probably the weakest Huns outfit in history - and in turmoil. This is critical to this debate.

 

And Strachan came in to a 24 first team player clearout after MON's era. The reason for all this was that his spending was unsustainable. Both clubs collapsed at the same time but we've recovered better

 

I know players are going for more money nowadays,I have a decent grasp of market forces thank you.

You on the other hand made a sweeping generalisation(nothing unusual there)about players costing £6m then costing £20m now,that is simply nonsense.

Sutton scored 1 goal for Chelsea in his season there,hardly inspiring stuff.Signing him was a gamble,are you seriously suggesting any major team would spend £20m on a striker who had scored 1 goal the previous season?

Who's the teenager BTW,youve lost me I'm afraid???Do you mean Hartson?Spending £6m on him was a gamble,if you dont think so,fine.I think you'll find you are in the minority with that opinion!!!It is bollocks to suggest that any major team would sanction spending £20m on someone with BBJ's perceived injury record.

So Lennon wouldnt be worth £20m now?I think you are contradicting yourself now?How much did Shevchenko cost Chelsea when he signed and how much did they sell him for?

 

Good post, interesting facts there. Eventhough i was a MON fan he did have more to work with.

 

I remember well after Seville Oneill basically pleading to be backed so he could take us to the next level. The board crapped themselves. Oneill was forced to make do and run an excellennt but ageing squad into the ground rather than wheel and deal at the none-entitie end of the market. I salute him! The aftermath? Jim Traynor and co. slaughtering him after he went for leaving SStrachan nothing to work with. Strachan then proceeded to dispense of Sutton, Thompson, Hartson etc. (when will we see their likes again) working in tandem with his puppet- masters at board level.

 

Strachan sold those players when they were past their best, I'm not one for sentiment with players.