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match winning decisions

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Ryan47, Nov 17, 2008.

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  1. Ryan47

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    A daft cow on the RR phone in just read out a list she keeps of match-winning decisions we've gotten.

    Jan penalty vs St.Mirren - wasn't a penalty.

    Caldwell vs DUTD - IMO should have been a penalty, but she claims it would have ended 1-0, does she forget Paul Hartley scored ? and roughy clamped her by saying they may not have scored the penalty.

    McManus vs Falkirk - she claims his handball was a match-winning decision, regardless of us winning 3-0.

    Penalty vs Hamilton - never a penalty.

    it seems we're apparently being favoured by referee's, now lets look at decisions which could have cost us...

    Mike McCurry last season - no description needed.

    Kris Boyd vs Hamilton - offside goal, yet nothing was made of this

    Kenny Miller penalty vs Hamilton - IMO it was just as bad as Kyriagkos a few years ago.

    Novo penalty vs Kilmarnock a few weeks ago - watch the replay never a penalty, and Kilmarnock were winning 1-0 at the time.

    Villarreal diving about and eventually scoring a free kick from a dive - nothing was made of this, only Paul Hartley spoke out about it, but apparently we were just paranoid.

    wrongly disallowed goal vs Aalborg - Clearly onside, and along with the Villarreal decision, has probably cost us the last 16.

    Maybe it's me sticking up for Celtic, but how can people honestly say we're favoured by referees, when its quite clear we've been * over just as much.

    when decisions go our way, they get highlighted more, because we're champions and 4 points clear.
     
  2. Euskal Herria

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    We're * over by decisions far more than we benefit from them. Especially since we tend to benefit against crap SPL teams who we should/would have beaten anyway, but it's always against the Huns/CL teams that we get the * end of the deal.

    Rangers have been and always will be the Establishment team. Given the way Scottish society, the media and the SFA are towards us it is preposterous to suggest we have any kind of unfair advantage (other than the fact we're humans and They aren't).
     
  3. greg2467

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    trying to be as unbiased as possible I would say that it is 60-40 in favour of rangers who get the decisions. I admit that a few of the decisions that weve gotten lately namely the peno at the weekend have helped us however rankers defo get more than their fair share of fortune.
     
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    For the most part Scottish referees arnt biased, merely *. :rolleyes:
     
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    I tend to believe in the past couple seasons the old adage 'it evens itself out over a season' has been fairly apt.

    Just from the past couple weeks there was the fact Naka was booted up and down the park against Killie, Donati should have had a penalty in the second game against them, Brown was stamped on against Man United and Hamilton, Senna's free kick which beat us in El Madrigal was contentious etc etc etc. It wasn't a penalty at the weekend but those decisions have went against us in the past, you just have to take them on the chin sometimes unless it's utterly blatant bias or the ref is clearly incompetent.
     
  6. Euskal Herria

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    About that Hamilton penalty. Like I said in the match thread, he was clean through on goal. What difference does it make if he was a few inches either side of the box? If a striker gets taken down by the last defender just past the half-way line, is it fair to just give them a freekick 40 yards from goal when the striker would have been 1-on-1 otherwise? Last man back should = penalty.
     
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    Scottish referees generally don't have the bottle to give decisions against the OF imo. At times you get quite embarrassed by some of thing they give us for example. The worst is McCurrie though. He just can't handle it and crumbles in front of the big crowds. Another recent disgraceful display I'll never forget was Kenny Clark's CIS Cup final last year. I know I've highlighted 2 Rangers examples but there have obviously been a lot for Celtic in the last year.

    You see the difference when both sides play in Europe without the Scottish refs although it's only a distant memory I have of the huns in Europe:icon_mrgreen:
     
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    She seems to pay alot of attention to us so much for it just being us paranoid :rolleyes: the standard of refereeing in scotland is poor and always has been, in europe we have been * over alot by the refs especially this season.
     
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    Exactly mate. If a defender takes the gamble of "cheating" by committing a professional foul on the edge of the box, he cant complain if the gamble backfires & a pen is awarded. When the margins are so tight that's a chance you take.
     
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    I missed this i think i have a auto-mute device when it detects a womens voice.



    ONLY EGG YOKING GHIRLS :100:
     
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    IN the box penalty,out the box free kick....thats the differnce a few inches make,as for the last man back idea....get a grip....you could get a penalty in your own half if they had enough men up for a corner...lol.
     
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    Well if it meant that the striker would have been 1-on-1 with the keeper then that would only be fair. One on ones are often easier than penalties because there's less pressure/you can shoot from where you want.

    Answer my question: how is it fair to have to settle for a 40+ yard freekick when you would have had a 1-on-1 from 15 yards? I'm not suggesting this as a new rule, I'm just saying that the penalty on the weekend was hardly unfair on the Accies.
     
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    During the 90's when we won nothing they said we where paranoid, but the truth is back then we had every right to be.

    Jim Farry, holding up Jorge Cadete's registration so he could not play in a semi final.

    Being flaged offside in an old firm came when cadete ran from his own half.

    Jorge Cadete getting a legit goial chopped of in a new year game at ibrox.

    Brian Mcginly, standing up at an orange order and staying he was proud celtic never won an old firm game when he was in charge.

    A ref getting his wish from SFA getting his final game at Ibrox

    Mr Waddell, Mr Mckluskey, mr Dalles.

    Could go on, we got told we where paranoid, how times have changed.
     
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    I think this is also why we get the short end of the stick in Champions League.
    Refs there don't have the bottle to give decisions against the ManUs, the Villarreals, etc. And it's not just this year. We should have had a draw at Old Trafford if not for Giggs hurting himself so brilliantly the ref pitied him and gave a penalty.
     
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    I agree, theres no point crying over spilt milk, At the end of the day Refs are only human and make mistakes like the rest of us. I'm not saying we shouldn't moan at all about their mistakes as you need to encourage them to improve but there wouldn't be a game without them. Also the fact that teams win when they shouldn't or lose when they shouldn't is a big part of what makes football exciting.
     
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    To be honest, bias or lucky, watever them scum want to use as an excuse...don't really give two * to be honest...in the end of the day we will always WIN!!!
    And for me...I don't care how. We get bad decisions against us all the time and like true professionals we get our heads down and keep going. Not like that idiot in charge of the scum aka "*-face Walter"©. He only has excuses even when he was criticised last season for his negative anit-football style; blaming it on Scottish football and economy.

    Truth is no ref is great, everyone of them make mistakes. Its not bias its human nature. Can you honestly expect one person to be able to keep an eye on 22 players on a pitch....I think all Scottish ref are idiots but its all we have. Even in the EPL, those full time refs are just as bad as ours (except McCurry though, he is just completely useless).

    We ain't ever going need to blame the SFA or the refs for losing...typical of bad losers...the scum of scotland..aka Scotland's Shame...next thing you know, they say it rains more in Ibrox than it does Parkhead...* tossers!!!
     
  17. cummins88

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    I hate all of the paranoid talk, my wife does it all of the time. Lets get on with it. Chin up, maybe they get more penalties because they play for them.

    Isn't kind of wierd the amount of free kicks we get in naka territory, sometimes you play to your strength, if K Miller has a shot on target or a chance to go down and get Boyd a penalty, I know which i would prefer.