Good to see the fans clapping before the match

willie maley,unarguably a celtic great came from a british army background,father was a sergeant in the british army,and was very proud of it,he was also a proud supporter of the royal family,he allowed recruitment broadcasts at celtic park during world war one and wished he could have done more.he was also very proud of his irish background,so if a man like that could be both proud of his britishness and his irishness why cant we.celtic cannot allow itself to be hijacked for the political purposes of a small minority,i tried to engage the green brigade in a discussion on their website when that silly woman made her comments on rebel songs and they banned me from the site,like all so called conscientious groups they only like the sound of their own voices,they are right ,all others are heretics,sounds a bit fascist like to me.
no politics at football,poppy isnt political in my view,its time for the silent majority at celtic park to reclaim the club from the rebel singing minority who glorify in organisations who deal in terrorism,ira,eta,plo,,,what the * does a palestinian flag have to do with celtic,i feel like ramming it up their arses every time i see it.protest in george square not celtic park,let us watch the football

 

Those poppies don't represent people in Iraq, Afghanistan or even when the british army were in Ireland.

They represent war heroes from WWI and WWII, what have the Irish got against them, for the most part anyway.

although you will be told by the people who deal with the poppies that they are for ALL who have served for the British army, don't be fooled, for the most part its for the true heroes.

I honestly don't know what Irish people can have against World War heroes.

even if you don't agree with the poppy wearing, protesting is unacceptable and has shamed our club, funny how for the most part, the people who protested are also the ones who sing IRA songs, which also shame our club.

 

Actually poppies are a tribute to every British conflict.

 

Why can nobody just answer a straight few questions? Every time I ask a question people avoid answering it. This makes me think that you don't have an answer or that you agree what I'm saying but don't want to be seen to agree. FFS.

 

Why don't you answer my question mate.

I totally see where you're coming from, except the last part which I asked a question about.

 

The celtic support are not split...there is a very vocal minority who like the sound of their own voices led by some ''right on citizen smith types who havent washed their che guevara t shirt in years.now i understand your points about the british army in northern ireland,but this is scotland in 2008,and the club are making great efforts to move on beyond the rebel singing days,,,i say again this is scotland,we play in scotland in the spl,not the irish league,these are facts,and some of us,the majority i would say do not want to hear rebel songs or argue about poppies,it simply is not an issue,we must move on and embrace the fact that it is not acceptable too sing ira songs in manchester falkirk,or dare i say ibrox,you cannot complain about the odious famine song and then sing ira songs in football grounds and at a demo against the poppy,move on or find another club to embarrass.

 

That is so true mate.

I actually think that's why a lot of fans act like this, because they want to be seen as the next Che Guevara.

A guerilla if you will.

 

Jesus Christ you really don't have a clue do you. The Black & Tans were formed mainly of WW1 veterans. Here's an example of the orders they passed:

 

And I mean this in the least offensive way, but I sincerely wish people... no wait, attitudes like yours did not exist. You make me sick.

 

I did not clap yesterday i remained silent and just wanted to watch my Team pick up another 3 points. i have no respect for the British Armed Forces, i am from belfast and watched one of my friends be brutually attacked by a number of thugs dressed in british army uniforms. I, along with many thousands of loyal irish Celtic supporters will never ever forget what this army of occupation did in our homeland. and to call us "*" is an insult you should be ashamed . are you a Ger under cover.......

We Shall Remember.........

 

you've said in the past you support the IRA, Celtic does not need attitudes like yours !!!!

 

Henke... they still haven't even answered the points we made yesterday so I don't think they'll start any time soon. It's a waste of time, imo. This argument has come full circle multiple times and people just aren't reading back further than 3-4 pages.

I get annoyed when the Irish fans think this is an all-Irish clubs and don't show respect for its British/Scottish roots but I have to say this is one of the first, and worst, times I've seen it the other way around.

 

I have spent the last few hours reading the posts in this thread. As an ex servicman for the last 22 yrs, within the the Army and a Celtic Supporter, (yes there are a few of us) I watched with pride the 1 minutes applause on saturday.

I have just recently returned from a rememberence service today atended by over 20 different nationalities (muslum as well as christian), in which we were reminded of the ultimate sacrifice people made to allow us to sit here in freedom. This is what rememberance sunday is all about to ensure we never forget its symbol is the poppy.

I watched the game on chanel 67 as I am abroad.

 

Thing is mate, most of the time, the fans who want to be Scottish, who are Scottish, usually support any of the Irish links with the club.

When its the other way round, this doesn't happen, they usually just call John Reid a *, and claim he's trying to bring Celtic down from the inside.

 

Nobody's stating that Scottish people don't have the right, or even that they shouldn't, wear poppies/clap in remembrance. All we, or at least I am saying, is that the players who are not from the UK should not be forced to wear the poppy. Unless you are going to say that the British military has a perfectly clean record in Ireland, you have to admit it's a little bit of an insult for an Irish player like Cillian to be wearing a poppy who's money goes directly to people that killed his countrymen! There's just no way of getting around that fact.

 

That's a good point.

he would have a good case if he said he wasn't wearing one.

but what about the people who were born in Glasgow, and have never set foot outside Glasgow, why are they protesting so vehemently.

 

guys,im sorry,i know a lot of you have very valid reasons for being anti british army,but this is football and a team of which we should be proud,i am not proud when i hear some wee neds singing boys of the old brigade et al,ad nauseum,at every away ground we go to,we have a great reputation,quite rightly,but do you not see the damage done to our reputation by incidents like the demo yesterday,,,we as fans who dont agree with the minority have every right to be outraged with this mob who bring our club into disrepute.my family have been here since 1845 and saw celtic as a chance to end a hardworking week with a bit of escapism while being proud of what it stood for,and that didnt include support for innapropriate political stances at football games,football,football ,,,not politics

 

I know, it's usually the Irish fans... but the lack of respect being shown to their point of view is utterly, completely embarrassing. I can't believe that people are being called "*" or "a disgrace" because they choose not to support a military which has killed friends or family. People like FeedtheBear seem to think that all Irish immigrants in Glasgow are 6th/7th generation and that no Irish fans actually from Ireland like to go to the games and support the club... but that's false. There are a great deal of people trying to integrate who still hold a resentment for the British Army. And given the fact that the poppy money goes to all veterans there's a real possibility that they are supporting somebody who occupied their lands. How nobody can grasp this is unbelievable.

It's like if an Iraqi refugee came to America and made it big as a footballer but had to remember American servicemen on Veteran's Day... never in a million years would I make him do that. Vietnamese, Mexican Americans, there are many ethnic groups in America that have reason to not support Veteran's day... I just don't understand why you think the Irish have to just fall in line.

 

Personally I understand where they're coming from.

I just think that a protest is a bit much, and handing back your season ticket is just ludicrous.

 

This is how I know you haven't read the entire thread, because people like me and Henke have been arguing that ALL politics should be kept out of Celtic park, IRA chanting, poppy wearing, all of it. The argument that poppies are not political in Celtic's fan base simply is not true. Your inability to empathize with people who have another viewpoint is startling... I'm sorry you don't agree with them, but they hardly rioted and started smashing * is it? They merely walked out to let themselves be known, then walked back in... that's about as civilized as a protest can be. Unless of course you want them to forget about their feelings and blindly support a cause they don't believe in? Because that's dangerously close to hyper-nationalism.