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Wait, how do these 'IRA' songs damage our club?

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Euskal Herria, Sep 20, 2008.

Discuss Wait, how do these 'IRA' songs damage our club? in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

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  1. Renegade T

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    he obviously didnt mean that.
     
  2. technom8t

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    This thread baffles me, why anyone would want this stuff in a FOOTBALL ground, is beyond a joke.

    someone made the point on this thread that sums it up perfectly.....

    '' one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter '', well theres only 1 answer to that, they stopped becoming freedom fighters when they planted bombs and began to blow up innocent women and children, if you now think this is still ok to lend your support to a terrorist organization, then CP isn't the place for you, i am sick to death of hearing how Celtic is a Irish Club (no offense intended here BUT....) It NOT its based in Scotland and IS a Scottish club it's history had Irish roots....this doesn't give you the right though to sing what you do and tarnish our club......

    stop the moronic behavior or it will eventually spell the end of Celtic Fc
     
  3. Martin

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    This is true mate and we should never forget our past. However a lot of the people who sing about the IRA know nothing about Irish politics, may never have set foot in Ireland and do it not to celebrate our heritage but with the sole purpose of offending people.
     
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    the ira are terrorists. i dont want my football club to be assoiciated with murderers. plain and simple. no place for it in football
     
  5. Johnnybhoy

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    It doesnt matter what IRA you are singing about or what timezone they were in. When people here IRA they are offended as much as id be offende if i heard UVF chants around Dublin.

    I can understand a lot of the points on this thread, I love the Rebel songs and ballad sessions and I know most songs sung are about the old IRA and opression etc IM aware of that but how many opposition fans are aware of that(im not talking about the huns * them)??

    basically 3 o clock on a saturday is not the time or place for them. if you cant hold them in for 90 minutes and go to charlie and the bhoys after the game then theres something wrong with that person.
     
  6. seanchai

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    Celtic HAS irish roots and nomatter who is ashamed of those roots, those roots will always remain . This cannot be undone .
    Someone also remarked that "Celtic have built up a good reputation over the last "few years " ....this reputation was built up by the celtic support over the last 100 years ...and more .
    We (the celtic support) have built this reputation for fairness and sporting behaviour ...this includes (and has always) included the songs of generations of celtic supporters ...just because the political/media climate has changed that does not mean the celtic support should change .We have always sung songs from our roots and i (and many others by the sound of it ) will carry those roots to our grave with us . I,m ashamed to say that there are some celtic supporters who wish the celtic support to change their songs . There are those amongst us who do not even like (and who refuse to sing because of finger pointing )some beautiful songs and even some media who have called for the banning of the beautiful song "The fields of Athenry" .
    Those celtic supporters amongst us who sing the songs of the past should be applauded and the so called celtic supporters who wish to change the songs that the celtic support have sung with pride for many many years put the name of Glasgow Celtic to shame .
    If there are those amongst us who do not like the roots of Glagow Celtic then go and support a team like falkirk or motherwell .....that way you will cause no upset to anyone .....Maybe those celtic supporters do not realise that there are people who wish celtic football club never existed and who would love nothing more than celtic support to go away and forget their roots . As long as i can still go to the games i will sing my favorite songs shoulder to shoulder with those fans who love their roots and have supported those roots and the name of glasgow celtic through thick and thin over the last half century ...and will continue to do so for as long as * is willing to allow me to do so.
    * bless the true celtic supporters and * bless the boys of the old brigade .:shamrock:
     
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    Explain what roots celtic have to a terrorist organisation ?

    get a grip mate, we have no roots whatsoever to the Irish Republican Army, we have roots to Ireland as a country, not a terrorist organisation.
     
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    you know what...im a glasgow boy , i supported celtic since i was 5 and im now 29

    i dont give a * about the ira or revelling in rebel tunes and i especially cant be * reading * stirring on an internet forum , i dont need that as an excuse to retort to rangers scum

    i support celtic football club and also my country in international football

    why are people allways looking for an argument ?
     
  9. Quiet Assassin

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    It really is time some people who purport to support our club wake up and see the bigger picture of what is happening not only in Scotland but in Europe as a whole.

    The days of long held intolerances towards people of other races and religions are largely dying out and long may it continue but we in Scotland have two camps who are * bent on either winding the other lot up, or hanging defiantly on to the past. More often than not that past is one mired in death, whether it came from the hand of G*d, the hand of man, or natural means.

    Celtic Football Club are NOT a political organisation and never have been. We are NOT and have never been affiliated to ANY political groups in any way, shape or form in our long, long esteemed history. The singing of songs glorifying the IRA or any other terrorist or political movement were started by people who seemed to think we have some form of connection to those groups simply because our following was mainly from the successive generations of Irish immigrants who settled in the south west of Scotland, but I truly believe that if the question was put to a poll among the Celtic support the vast majority of them would vote to completely ban songs glorifying the IRA from CP and quite rightly so. The songs are connected to a group who stole, murdered, supplied drugs and generally bullied the people they claimed to be fighting for and serve absoluely no purpose in this day and age.

    CFC employ footballers regardless or race, creed or colour and I can only hope that those who hear the pro IRA songs and that are not familiar with them, don't start investigating what they stand for. We have always held a moral high ground over the other lot but the more the singing of the Pro-IRA songs continue, the easier it is for them to assuage their own guilt by associating us along with them. The people singing them do our club absolutely zero good and a lot of harm, both at home and internationally, especially now that games are regularly beamed worldwide. It's time the club took a stronger stance against the singing and banned the perpetrators, before the issue starts regularly appearing in the media and before we seriously regret not dealing with it.
     
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    Muttcutts ...where in my post did i say that celtic have terrorist roots ??
    I,m afraid you need to read posts and not flick over them before making a fool of yourself by stating something which i never said in my post .
    If you have no wish to sing the songs that celtic supporters have sang for many years then thats your preogative . :87:
     
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    This Post is pure dung. Every War has innocent victims. I mean have there not been innocents killed in Iraq, Afghanastan. Celtic is based in Scotland yes but it was created by Irish people. Cardiff play in english league does that mean they are english and not to mention Berwick or Gretna who dont know where the * they are from.

    Most of these songs sung at CP are from a war in Ireland a long time ago. Almost 100 years. Now that is history and I for 1 am proud of it. I would also say the atleast 80 percent of the people at CP during games have and do take part in IRA chanting either at home in pubs or at games.
     
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    Feed the bear ....i have no tolerance whatsoever of anyone who sings racist or sectarian songs....even for ninety minutes a week ...I myself am in no way rascist or sectarian .
     
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    So we are not true fans because we don't want to sing about terrorists who kill innocents?!?

    Ha ha,:56: get a * grip will you. I presume you are at the wind up here.
     
  14. seanchai

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    kevtun ...i,m afraid your time is wasted in writing to people who have no wish to learn the true meaning of songs that are sung by the Celtic support .They normally read the media and believe all that they are told by that media ....(they are probably daily record readers :87: ).
     
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    is that you off then mate aye ?
     
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    I,m afraid Tony that you are just another one that flicks through posts and do not digest there content ....
    Please point out to me where i said that true fans sing about terrorists who kill innocents ??
    :87:
     
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    Renegade ....I will have a look at other posts and see if anyone else is mistaken in my opinion ...if so i will tell them my beliefs ....is that not what a forum is all about ???
     
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    So Tell me * has this WAR go to do with supporting our team on a Saturday afternoon FFS , ill tell you what absolutely nowt, Celtic FC as we know it to day was formed in Scotland, unlike the Cardiff's and thing you used as examples.

    Once again, if you wish to live in the past and be pro -IRA that is your prerogative, but US and ME as Celtic FOOTBALL CLUB fan(s) don't want to see our club tarnished in this way. If you feel that strongly about it then do it in your own time, not on a Satarday!
     
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    that is ridiculous. its not a case of true supporters singing rebel songs against so called lesser fans who do not sing those songs. its more of case of the narrow minded against the open. the diliquants against the educated. some people need to get a grip. celtic football club is just a football club that we all love in our own ways.
     
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