Yang Hyun Jun

Having been unfortunate enough to watch him play for us over 60 times, it's not a lack of thought or reason I'm judging him on. His ability is very much in question, given the sheer lack of impact he has in the vast majority of games he has played for us. One or two positive aspects of his game is not enough to be a Celtic player and it shows time and time again. When judging the ability of a player you look at the whole package and don't just cherry pick the bits you like. Not once has he performed well when we really needed him to.

"If he didn't have ability he'd be nowhere near us" - There are plenty of players we've signed over the years that directly contradict that. In other words it's utter *. We've had some utter * diddies play for us, and Yang is one of them.

 

His ability is in question. Unless I missed it, I haven’t read Rodgers or any other member of staff suggest his mental strength isn’t great or he lacks focus. So where are you getting that “fact” from?

Your suggestion that he wouldn’t be anywhere near us if he didn’t have the ability is absolute garbage as well. We’ve signed loads of players over the years who quite simply don’t have the ability to make it here.

We’ve just got shot of a couple in the last week alone. Kwon is another. Tilio another. Palma. Kenny. We sign them all the time.

 

'given the sheer lack of impact he has in the vast majority of games he has played for us'

This comment alone shows you've got no intention in acknowledging what I'm even saying, so what's the point? Get back to me when you find a clue bud.

 

I don't think you understand the concept of signing players with potential and trying to make them better. It's a difficult thing to do, but with the right attitude (or focus, mental strength, whatever) it can be a very good way of operating in the transfer market.

Some players we bring in have that mental strength, to turn their potential into producing on the park. Others fall short which is always goanny be a possibility. But we're not looking to bring in players with no talent to work with, if you think that you're more clueless than you come across (which is saying a lot).

 

He's been * the vast majority of games he's played for us in my opinion, that's all that comment shows.

I addressed your point about settling in, in my previous post. It's nothing more than an excuse for a player who isn't good enough and hasn't shown enough in his 65 appearances with us.

 

Nah you keep saying he's *, never a Celtic player, has no talent.....he's already proven all they things as bullshit yet you and others are determined to stick with it.

If you said you don't think he'll make it here then fair enough, that's an opinion, but you keep talking pish trying to dismiss what he has in his locker. It's a matter of finding consistency, he's already shown he has the ability to turn it on. Or would you rather pretend it didn't happen?

 

So Yang’s attitude is the problem? Not his ability? If either of those are an issue then why would you want to persist with him?

You’re talking yourself around in circles here.

Of course players with ability don’t always make it here for a variety of reasons. Pukki is a good example of that in semi-recent terms. Maybe even Jenz and Jullien.

But Yang quite clearly just lacks ability. Doing a nice stepover every other match. Or playing a clean one-two a couple of times against Dundee United is not a sign that he has requisite ability to play for Celtic.

He had a few decent cameos last season and a wee purple patch where he scored a few goals. Then reverted to type. He’s had a handful of good performances in 65 appearances for the club.

What would you say Yang’s strengths are?

 

He is *. There's two season's worth of evidence proving it. A couple of decent showings in two seasons is nowhere near enough. I've never said he has no attributes. He's a likeable guy and works hard, has quick feet. That's not enough though.

 

I'm not even goanny ask if you're being serious by implying I'm saying his attitude is a problem, I've been called a troll for far less. Pathetic attempt there.

He had a spell in the team and done some excellent work...CL included by the way...and showed what he can do. His talent is undeniable at this point. I've no idea why that's so hard to admit.

That is the kind of spell that gives a player confidence, makes them believe they can push on and contribute. Aye he fell away again but that doesn't magically erase the fact he showed his ability.

My whole point is he took a long time to show his ability, which can happen in some cases. It's not through a lack of application, it's more trying to smash through the mental challenges of playing for a big club. Now that he's done it, he needs to find it consistently to have a chance here.

I think he'll do it, you don't. Fair enough. But don't try and make out like he's a useless nobody with nothing to offer. It's idiotic *.

 

It's like trying to converse with a brick wall here. No offence.

 

I’m not implying anything. Read your posts back. You initially suggested his lack of focus and/or mental strength were perhaps the stumbling block in Yang not doing the business for us because it’s not a lack of ability. You then said those would fall under attitude.

It’s not that it’s hard to admit his talent is undeniable. His talent is quite clearly up for debate. Mental challenges and the weight of the shirt may well also be holding him back, but he still quite clearly lacks the ability to make it at Celtic.

He’s a grafter. I like that about him. And I do actually think he has something…just at a much lower level than Celtic. At no point have I said he’s a “useless nobody with nothing to offer”. That’s just making stuff up.

The only team rumoured to be interested is Legia Warsaw (5th best team in Poland), which probably tells you how he’s viewed in the general footballing world as well.

 

Get him sold to give us all peace in this thread

 

None taken because you're talking * *.

 

He’s definitely both. Shown it multiple times.

 

I understand why he frustrates people (cup final being the prime example), but he’s clearly not “*” - it’s like the same posters are determined to pounce on him every time he has a poor game.

Consistency is an issue and I think he’s got a tendency to rush things, but he’s showed enough to merit keeping him. If he doesn’t kick on next season then fine, sell. But he’s got potential and particularly in the second half of the season was starting to play very well.

 

Would you be happy for Yang, to start our CL Qualifier?

The answer is all you need to know.

 

Not exactly.

But that is a very high bar to set for quite a few Celtic players just now.
I wouldn't be happy to see either Trusty or Schemeichel start in the Champions League qualifier.
Good enough for the SPL, yes, potential to improve, yes he has shown that last year.
Could he go on to earn us money in a future transfer, yes I think.
Are we seriously short of decent right wingers just now, yes.

 

He clearly is *. Folk need to stop trying to polish a *.

 

If he was the only option then AYE

 

Not really though. That kind of thinking ignores the fact that players develop, and he was definitely showing signs of that in the second half of the season. He also showed that he could play well in the Champions League off the bench. There are numerous players out there who have been written off as younger players only to put it all together a bit later on. I do think it’s probably last chance saloon time for him now, but let’s not pretend that it’s a certainty that he’s peaked already and is the finished article.

It also ignores the fact that we need squad depth and that realistically we’re not going to have a team of superstars happy to sit on the bench. We need projects like Yang.